11-23-2016, 12:45 PM
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They say Ed Wood was a head of his time, but during his tenure he made some of the biggest production flops in the history of cinemas.
I don't want someone ahead of their time. I want someone ahead in their time. And the fact that the Flames are one of the worst teams in the league is more telling than any praise Torts can provide.
Until I hear the same praise from Mike Babcock, Joel Quenneville, or Daryl Sutter, I couldn't care. Torts is one more bad season away from being an old memory in this league. It's like Treliving getting praise from Mike Millbury
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11-23-2016, 12:52 PM
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#42
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I don't doubt Gulutzan is a really good coach. The question is if he's a really good head coach. Not all great assistants can lead a locker room as the figure head. I will reserve judgement until game 82 as to date there has been some small snippets of progress surrounded by poor play, lack of discipline, and horrendous special teams. While some of these issues were here pre-Gulutzan, he was brought in to correct them to which he still may need time but the lack of discipline is new.
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That happens when you are actually trying to actively take the puck away from the opponent instead of waiting for them to shoot it into your shin pads so you can skate the other way and make a stretch pass. They just need to learn how to do it without taking a penalty.
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11-23-2016, 12:57 PM
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#44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkGio
They say Ed Wood was a head of his time, but during his tenure he made some of the biggest production flops in the history of cinemas.
I don't want someone ahead of their time. I want someone ahead in their time. And the fact that the Flames are one of the worst teams in the league is more telling than any praise Torts can provide.
Until I hear the same praise from Mike Babcock, Joel Quenneville, or Daryl Sutter, I couldn't care. Torts is one more bad season away from being an old memory in this league. It's like Treliving getting praise from Mike Millbury
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This article claims that Babcock spoke highly of him
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/f...lutzan-hiring/
I believe I heard that those Saskatchewan guys (Babcock, Gully, Desjardins) speak regularly.
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11-23-2016, 12:58 PM
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#45
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Back in Calgary!!
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Threads like these are insight into why Trump is now President.
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11-23-2016, 01:19 PM
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#46
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Looooooooooooooch
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Originally Posted by sa226
Threads like these are insight into why Trump is now President.
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Because Torts praised him??
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11-23-2016, 01:23 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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I hear a lot of "hockey people", who know about the game than I do, praising him.
The last few games have looked a lot better, so I'm hoping he's starting to come into his own here, and will start to look like a really great coach.
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11-23-2016, 01:24 PM
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#48
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Normally, my desk
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sa226
Threads like these are insight into why Trump is now President.
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11-23-2016, 01:47 PM
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#49
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: 555 Saddledome Rise SE
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Originally Posted by polak
He sucks for a multitude of reasons.
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LOL
The anti-Gulutzan crowd reminds me of late 2000s Oilers fans. year after year, they refused to believe that their GM (Lowe) and/or their players sucked and instead kept blaming it on the coach (MacTavish).
We laughed at them.
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11-23-2016, 02:03 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Frequitude
LOL
The anti-Gulutzan crowd reminds me of late 2000s Oilers fans. year after year, they refused to believe that their GM (Lowe) and/or their players sucked and instead kept blaming it on the coach (MacTavish).
We laughed at them.
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Have you not seen the Treliving thread?
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11-23-2016, 02:07 PM
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#51
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Frequitude
LOL
The anti-Gulutzan crowd reminds me of late 2000s Oilers fans. year after year, they refused to believe that their GM (Lowe) and/or their players sucked and instead kept blaming it on the coach (MacTavish).
We laughed at them.
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Sure, we laughed at them, because they're the oilers. But they were right about MacTavish being a bad coach.
I haven't fully given up on Gulutzan, but I'm getting close. His entire offensive plan seems to be: take a low percentage shot from the perimeter and try for a deflection. Except on the PP, where they don't even try that, they just pass it around the perimeter until they lose possession.
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11-23-2016, 02:08 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by polak
Unfortunately for you, I have to wait for my system to refresh at work today and this is a forum. I can post a stupid comment if I want.
Some people take this crap way too seriously. Look at all that time you wasted replying.
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You can. And you will be resented for it.
The time I wasted replying is hopefully amortized across the time I save having to wade through ####ty comments when I convince you for the love of God to stop.
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11-23-2016, 02:14 PM
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#53
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Stud_McCool
How the tables have turned... Torts has a coaching gig and doing well, while Hartley is sitting at home.
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collecting a paycheque.....who's laughing
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11-23-2016, 02:21 PM
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#54
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Due to goaltending IMO.
This year the special teams are losing them games.
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Disagree. They're special teams were awful last year as well, does everyone forget? And Elliott has looked just as bad as Hiller has. This is the same crappy team from last year.
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11-23-2016, 02:23 PM
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Retired
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
Quite frankly, you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
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Quite the drive-by shooting there.
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11-23-2016, 02:26 PM
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#56
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Disagree. They're special teams were awful last year as well, does everyone forget? And Elliott has looked just as bad as Hiller has. This is the same crappy team from last year.
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The PP this year is way worse then last season, it's in the single digits (8.4%).
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11-23-2016, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Disagree. They're special teams were awful last year as well, does everyone forget? And Elliott has looked just as bad as Hiller has. This is the same crappy team from last year.
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Revisionist history. The team surely had a bad start. PP in the second half was improved. Offence on the whole was not the problem.
Agreed on defence though.
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11-23-2016, 02:28 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: The toilet of Alberta : Edmonton
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Originally Posted by btimbit
I see flashes of brilliance and think waiting on Gully is the right thing to do.
Cameron has to go though
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I was very outspoken in my dislike for Gulutzan, but I will agree, the team's 5 on 5 play has markedly improved as the players get more comfortable within his system. Hiring a new guy now, just to start from scratch is the wrong call at this point. But he still makes a lot of questionable decisions. Why is one of our top point producers getting no PP time? Why does Wideman get scratched or plays 20+ minutes, not 3rd pairing minutes? Why are Vey and Chiasson on the PP? Why hasn't he taken over or reassigned the special teams coaching assignments? Not exactly inspiring a lot of confidence there.
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11-23-2016, 02:48 PM
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Calgary, AB.
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62 points.
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11-23-2016, 02:57 PM
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#60
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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Originally Posted by Delgar
Guy spends more time looking down than at the ice when he's on the bench.
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I keep seeing this comment. Do people not realize that the NHL installed monitors in the bench floors this off-season? Every coach is looking down after a goal is scored, because they're watching replays. They need to know if they're going to challenge the call, among many other things.
We need to get used to coaches looking down. That monitor has become a tool that they're constantly using through-out the game.
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