Honeymoon over in Winnipeg? Tickets going unsold

[TheAlpineOracle]

Originally Posted by polak

The thing is a non-sellout for them is a dismal night for any other market.

Sub-15,000 K is a small crowd for an NHL game.

If the teams drawing sub 15K crowds were charging as much as Winnipeg was for ticket they would be highly successful. I hate the Jets as much as anyone (more so their fans), but what's going on in this thread is ridiculous. There's a few hundred tickets available before the game not available, who cares? They probably get sold on walk up, and if they offered them out for season tickets on one year requirements they'd be snapped up instantly.

This thread is pathetic. We suck on the ice this year so we are going to start up junk like this? This strikes me more like the behaviour of Oiler and Riders fans than it does Flames fans.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle

If the teams drawing sub 15K crowds were charging as much as Winnipeg was for ticket they would be highly successful. I hate the Jets as much as anyone (more so their fans), but what's going on in this thread is ridiculous. There's a few hundred tickets available before the game not available, who cares? They probably get sold on walk up, and if they offered them out for season tickets on one year requirements they'd be snapped up instantly.

This thread is pathetic. We suck on the ice this year so we are going to start up junk like this? This strikes me more like the behaviour of Oiler and Riders fans than it does Flames fans.

Wtf behavior are you talking about?

The Jets aren't drawing crowds like they have in the past 5 seasons. Fact.

Other NHL fans are now speculating on causes and consequences of that given then they've lost a team once already 20 years ago.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle

This thread is pathetic. We suck on the ice this year so we are going to start up junk like this? This strikes me more like the behaviour of Oiler and Riders fans than it does Flames fans.

Well the Jets suck on the ice just as much as the Flames so what's your point?

[White Out 403]

... A Jan 12th article posted Feb 10th. If one simply goes back and looks at the Nashville game in question the attendance was 15,294. A sell out. Same with the Colorado game after. And for the 2nd game Nashville played in Winnipeg a week later.

The secondary market in Winnipeg is weak right now with a crappy team. But the games are still sold out, the season ticket holder base is still maxed out with a huge waiting list... ah jeez whatever. Clearly this kind of crap will make certain folks gleeful.

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Wtf behavior are you talking about?

The Jets aren't drawing crowds like they have in the past 5 seasons. Fact.

Other NHL fans are now speculating on causes and consequences of that given then they've lost a team once already 20 years ago.

Yes they are, that's the fact. What in the actual ####?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

... A Jan 12th article posted Feb 10th. If one simply goes back and looks at the Nashville game in question the attendance was 15,294. A sell out. Same with the Colorado game after. And for the 2nd game Nashville played in Winnipeg a week later.

The secondary market in Winnipeg is weak right now with a crappy team. But the games are still sold out, the season ticket holder base is still maxed out with a huge waiting list... ah jeez whatever. Clearly this kind of crap will make certain folks gleeful.



Yes they are, that's the fact. What in the actual ####?

That small of an arena was never a great idea.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle

This thread is pathetic. We suck on the ice this year so we are going to start up junk like this? This strikes me more like the behaviour of Oiler and Riders fans than it does Flames fans.

You are free to leave and never come back if this site bothers you this much.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

You are free to leave and never come back if this site bothers you this much.

I never understood the "the team you cheer for sucks so you can't point out other teams shortcomings" point of view. Who cares? The Flames sucking does not magically make the Jets not suck. The Jets suck. I don't care where the Flames are, that doesn't change the fact that the Jets suck. I am allowed to point that out regardless of where the Flames are in the standings.

The Jets suck.

[Psytic]

Jets are okay. Not really threatened by thier fans or thier team. Or thier stadium capacity. At least there's something to do in that city if I stop there on my next road trip to the east.

[nik-]

Any Jets fans who were clamoring for the old days should be buying up tickets like no ones business. The Jets always sucked, so they're just sliding back into their traditional role.

[PegCityFlamesFan]

Jets are sold out every night. The secondary market is tough. I sold my tickets for tomorrow's game within 20 minutes because I coach basketball tomorrow. I think the big problem would be if the re-up seats this year didn't get picked up... which they will... right??

I also hope that people realize these are the seats the team has for sale that aren't available for season tickets in the first place.

[Mr.Coffee]

But even if the Jets "struggle", say by ticket sales or a smaller maximum revenue potential from an overall building perspective, was it still not the right move to get this team out of Atlanta?

I'd like to know more about that decision because isn't that what the NHL was faced with? A desperate situation in Atlanta driving the need to get out and find a more vibrant home, even if it isn't an absolute smashing success?

Like I don't know too much about it to be honest, but I have to think the business decision was narrowing in along the lines of:

a) stick in Atlanta with a nice building, with the right size and luxury box set up in a large market with alleged potential that was unlikely to grow near term in a material way or;

b) move to an obvious hockey market with a smaller building, smaller luxury box potential, secure ownership while the Canadian dollar is at par?

I'm still not convinced it was a mistake, which it seems like many posts here questioning Winnipeg are making it out to be.

Also hilarious to see the one Coyote fan that Resolute rightfully shuts down... just no- you guys have no grounds to be mocking other fanbases.

[Corral]

If attendance matters as much as this thread suggests, wouldn't there be larger issues in places like Detroit or Arizona where there are more empty seats than people some nights? Oh right, there is a larger issue in Arizona. And why is that? Because there is no owner with deep pockets. The owners in Winnipeg have deep pockets - the team is going nowhere.

[curves2000]

True North Sports and Entertainment will be just fine for the future with their Jets/Moose franchises.

The MTS Center which they own is one of the busiest buildings in North America with concerts and events. Lots of revenue from those strems flow to the owners.

The value of the franchise has risen dramatically as well. I believe the purchase price was $170 mil in 2011. With the rumored expansion franchises going for $500 mil wouldn't that be at least a starting point? Plus $500 mil USD is approx $700 mil CAD. In 2011 the USD/CAD was closer to par.

The Jets have both their NHL and AHL teams operating out of Winnipeg so that means lots of cost savings for things like food, training, staff etc. Plus they get all the revenue from Moose games as well.

I have also read that TV ratings for Jets games have been much higher this year vs previous years, this may also partially explain a softer ticket market as truthfully watching a game in HD @ home during the winter on a Tuesday isn't the WORST thing in the world. In any event larger TV audiences should increase the value of the TV/radio package when that contract comes up for renewal in the coming years.

I also wanted to address our attendance as well. The Dome hasn't been nearly as full and fans aren't spending the same at the games as before of course. This is to be expected. Our ticket prices are lower than Winnipeg and we are a much larger market as well. Another thing I find is that Calgary is a hot bed for "free" tickets. I swear thousands of people at each game get the free tickets from work or from someone they know etc. People who wouldn't pay cold hard cash for going to a Flames game.

In the end the a lot of the Canadian markets are somewhat going through similar scenarios here.

The Canucks are having constant sales, promos and other fan friendly events. Even in the playoffs last year tickets were really easy to come by.

Edmonton I believe is the exception here. Awful team for a decade and historically bottom feeders. Those fans pay cold hard cash year after year for that garbage. It's a smaller rink but whenever I go up for Flames games it's always tough and expensive to find tickets.

Calgary:Already discussed

Toronto: For the so called hockey universe and Canada's corporate HQ plus 6+ mil residents you would think sell outs would always occur. The last year or so that hasn't been the consistent case. I understand why but it's still interesting.

Ottawa: Always been a budget team with so so success. The arena location doesn't help either and so many fans in the area cheer for Montreal or Toronto, Boston

Montreal has all of Quebec as a market and a huge part of the east coast and some US fans. I have heard stories that ever since 2016 some of the scalpers have been offering deep discounts in order to move some of the less desirable games.

At the end of the day we are all hard working people and our entertainment dollars could go elsewhere if the product on the ice isn't what we expect.

I must admit when I see some of the prices that some of these teams have, and prices I have personally payed in LA,Anaheim,Phx,Florida, Philly. I really do question the "value" we get a hockey fans in Canada. I am 31 years old and we have , generation of hardcore hockey fans who don't even know what a Canadian Cup winning team feels like. Forget the Flames of 89 or 04, the Hab in 93 are a distant memory. That is several billions of dollars being spent from fans for a whole lot of empty parade promises in my opinion.

Just my little rant.

[Northendzone]

must have been a slow day on the Jet's beat for this to really be a story.

how many tickets are availible a couple of days before a nux, oilers or sens game.