Where will Stamkos end up?

[JJ1532]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Why on earth would Toronto do that? They won't make the playoffs this year (with or without Stamkos) so why not just ride out the season and get Stamkos for free on July 1?

Because why would Tampa let it get to that? I'd imagine if they can't get him to agree to a new contract before July 1st, they'll beg him to waive his NMC/NTC and get traded.

I mean, that has to be preferable from his point of view. Gets him out of an organisation that he clearly doesn't want to be with sooner and he has a good chance of having a deep play off run if he goes to a team like the Rangers, Habs etc. And the risk Toronto runs in not moving for him first is that he might get traded to another team and agree to sign a new deal with them. Would Toronto's long suffering fans take missing out on him?

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Why on earth would Toronto do that? They won't make the playoffs this year (with or without Stamkos) so why not just ride out the season and get Stamkos for free on July 1?

Don't know the market value of this, but if they own his rights they can sign him for eight years rather than top out at seven.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by JJ1532

Because why would Tampa let it get to that? I'd imagine if they can't get him to agree to a new contract before July 1st, they'll beg him to waive his NMC/NTC and get traded.

That's why Tampa would do it... why would Toronto? They don't have much of an incentive to trade for him if they think they'll get him anyways in free agency.

Originally Posted by DionTheDman

Don't know the market value of this, but if they own his rights they can sign him for eight years rather than top out at seven.

That's true. Although I'd argue that signing him for 7 would be better then 8 so maybe that's actually a bonus for the Leafs or whomever. Even if they wanted to get that extra year the better time to trade for him would be during the two week negotiating window when the cost would be low... not now.

[Ducay]

Well if TB does trade him, or TO pick him up, the deal will be contingent on him signing a new deal with Toronto, as we've seen in the past with other rental players.

Give up something useless as a base, and then if you can agree to a deal, throw a few decent prospects to TB. Gives TB a motivation to move him to TO and not a place that is strictly a playoff rental, where'd they really just be signing him until June 30 when they expect him to walk to TO anyways.

[PeteMoss]

IF he's not signed by season's end and Tampa doesn't think he'll sign, they will trade his rights for some kind of draft pick. Some team will want to talk with him before Toronto gets a chance.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Well if TB does trade him, or TO pick him up, the deal will be contingent on him signing a new deal with Toronto, as we've seen in the past with other rental players.

Give up something useless as a base, and then if you can agree to a deal, throw a few decent prospects to TB. Gives TB a motivation to move him to TO and not a place that is strictly a playoff rental, where'd they really just be signing him until June 30 when they expect him to walk to TO anyways.

Toronto wouldn't want him this year. They are trying to lose for high draft picks.

[IgiTang]

Going out on a limb here and saying Colorado.

1 for 1 swap

McKinnon to Tampa to re-unite with Drouin.

[Benched]

going to be some dark horse team no one sees coming.

like winnipeg

[Dion]

Anahiem.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by troutman

They get the cap space, which is no small thing.

Isn't space the definition of nothing? Or is it the other way around...

[N-E-B]

I just don't understand why the Leafs would want him. He seems like a quick fix. They've tried that route before with Kessel/JVR/Phaneuf etc. Why would they want to do that again? I'd want I develop my own homegrown talent. Stamkos makes more sense on a team that already has their own core. I don't think building around free agents is a good thing.

[Anduril]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

I just don't understand why the Leafs would want him. He seems like a quick fix. They've tried that route before with Kessel/JVR/Phaneuf etc. Why would they want to do that again? I'd want I develop my own homegrown talent. Stamkos makes more sense on a team that already has their own core. I don't think building around free agents is a good thing.

All of those examples are based off of trading. When somebody of this talent level comes by for 'free', everyone will be interested.

The consequence of signing him to a massive contract is looking more and more dangerous with his lackluster play.

[Singularity]

Originally Posted by doctajones428

I foresee him signing with Dallas while him, Benn and Seguin form Team Canada's future top line and proceed to absolutely decimate every team in the league with 100+ points each for the next decade

Yea and put them in cap hell forever

[Computerjungle]

People compare flames to Blackhawks. Could stamkos be our Hossa signing to put us over the top?

[Skaloper]

Originally Posted by Computerjungle

People compare flames to Blackhawks. Could stamkos be our Hossa signing to put us over the top?

No way we could afford him without losing our young talent who are one the final year of their entry level contracts

[Computerjungle]

Originally Posted by Skaloper

No way we could afford him without losing our young talent who are one the final year of their entry level contracts

Sounds like Blackhawks in 2009. But had to make hard choices in letting go havlat and khabibulin. Toews signed a 5 year that year.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Computerjungle

People compare flames to Blackhawks. Could stamkos be our Hossa signing to put us over the top?

Would be nice, but it's a different time cap wise.

Hossa signed for $63.3 million, but they were able to front load it and spread it out over 12 years.

The most we could sign Stamkos for would be 7 years, and he's probably going to get even more than $63.3 million on his next contract.

For argument sake, let's say he signed for just $63.3 million over 7 years, that's a cap hit of $9.04 million and would pretty much crush our future cap structure for keeping our young core together.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by AcGold

Toronto because they're going to overpay and every other team knows he's not worth 8 million. He'll take 10-11 and laugh, most frequently overrated player in the league at the moment.

Yeahj I'm sure every other team would only offer 7 million if he's UFA. Come on. The guy is 25 and is UFA. He's not going to get offers of a paycut.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

I just don't understand why the Leafs would want him. He seems like a quick fix. They've tried that route before with Kessel/JVR/Phaneuf etc. Why would they want to do that again? I'd want I develop my own homegrown talent. Stamkos makes more sense on a team that already has their own core. I don't think building around free agents is a good thing.

They are. check their prospects. By next summer they'll be consensus #1 prospect pool.

I think people underrate the young talent they already have.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

Yeah I think everyone knows it'll be Toronto. It was pretty funny that tsn had a segment last night and Toronto wasn't even an option.

They have to look "Cool" for all the little Leaf haters. They get blasted for even giving the Leafs a compliment.