When does CalgaryNext break ground?

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Howie_16

Quick question that may have been asked somewhere else that I can't find:

"If the Liberals win the election, would CalgaryNEXT be a project that could benefit from Trudeau's plan to spend federal money on infrastructure? How would/could this be affected by a majority or minority Liberal government?"

Only way this is possible is with an Olympic bid.

[Lil Pedro]

Voted 2017.

The sooner this gets built the better; Calgary's sports facilities are in desperate need of replacement, and if you disagree with that give your head a shake the next time it takes you 10 minutes to take a leak at the Dome or when you're freezing watching the Stamps in -30 weather in November. In the end, we are all going to be paying for it in some way, shape or form; accept it.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by #-3

Only way this is possible is with an Olympic bid.

Agreed, for the next few years anyway.

[stone hands]

Hopefully never

I want a new rink, but not calgaryNEXT

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by stone hands

Hopefully never

I want a new rink, but not calgaryNEXT

That's like winning a lottery and being told you have won a Ferrari and saying; "I want a Ferrari but not that Ferrari." At the end of the day if you want a Ferrari you should be happy that you have been presented the opportunity to have any Ferrari. Life isn't about having everything on your own terms. This is the plan that the Flames owners have chosen so if you want a new arena this is it.

[stone hands]

Except it's nothing like the lottery because instead of winning money, you get it taken from you

[RM14]

I would love to see what a $400MM reno to the dome would look like. Not that I want or hope it would happen. I just think it would be interesting to see what they can come up with with modern architecture.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by stone hands

Except it's nothing like the lottery because instead of winning money, you get it taken from you

How so? Explain to me how Calgary NEXT is taking any money from you?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by RM14

I would love to see what a $400MM reno to the dome would look like. Not that I want or hope it would happen. I just think it would be interesting to see what they can come up with with modern architecture.

At the cost of $400 million it's not a renovation, it's a new building.

[stone hands]

Oh not much, just like...800 million in taxpayer dollars to develop an area that could actually generate the city lots of tax if it wasn't being occupied by 1 Tennant who won't pay property tax because the city will get the privilege of owning the facility

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by stone hands

Oh not much, just like...800 million in taxpayer dollars to develop an area that could actually generate the city lots of tax if it wasn't being occupied by 1 Tennant who won't pay property tax because the city will get the privilege of owning the facility

You didn't answer my question. How is Calgary NEXT taking money from you?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by stone hands

Oh not much, just like...800 million in taxpayer dollars to develop an area that could actually generate the city lots of tax if it wasn't being occupied by 1 Tennant who won't pay property tax because the city will get the privilege of owning the facility

You want the facilities in Balzac? I assume you don't live in the far south of the city as a fieldhouse that's over an hour away from southerners isn't what I would call sensible at all. Central location is pretty important when it comes to facilities such as this.

[stone hands]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

You want the facilities in Balzac? I assume you don't live in the far South of the city as a fieldouse that's over an hour away from southerners isn't what I would call sensible at all. Central location is pretty important when it comes to facilities such as this.

In fact I do live in McKenzie towne and would gladly drive to balzak multiple times a week to support a team I have season tickets for


*edit*

In fact, balzak isn't even a big deal. If I took stony trail I'd get to a rink in balzak about 5 minutes slower than my current commute to the dome. Besides, saving 5-10 minutes of driving to a sporting event is really a poor excuse to justify that much public money for something

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by stone hands

In fact I do live in McKenzie towne and would gladly drive to balzak multiple times a week to support a team I have season tickets for


*edit*

In fact, balzak isn't even a big deal. If I took stony trail I'd get to a rink in balzak about 5 minutes slower than my current commute to the dome. Besides, saving 5-10 minutes of driving to a sporting event is really a poor excuse to justify that much public money for something

I suspect you can say this because you don't in fact, have seasons tickets. Plus, notwithstanding there's no way that Balzac is a mere 5 minutes more - Stoney Trail or not (I drive Stoney on the west side at least once a week and it's a good 30 minutes without traffic from the Trans-Canada to CrossIron Mills), not everyone is just off of Stoney or Deerfoot.

Out of town arenas were a past concept that never panned out: Kanata, Glendale, etc.

[stone hands]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I suspect you can say this because you don't in fact, have seasons tickets. Plus, notwithstanding there's no way that Balzac is a mere 5 minutes more - Stoney Trail or not (I drive Stoney on the west side at least once a week and it's a good 30 minutes without traffic from the Trans-Canada to CrossIron Mills), not everyone is just off of Stoney or Deerfoot.

Out of town arenas were a past concept that never panned out: Kanata, Glendale, etc.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by stone hands

Google maps is your friend

Broken link is not my friend - but I don't need google maps to tell me how Stoney Trail works.

But anyway, tell me what the driving time is from Lakeview or Valley Ridge or Woodlands to Balzac versus the west side?

Also, Balzac has no water supply. The last few developments had to jump through numerous and expensive hoops to get water licences. It's not a very good option for anyone.

Finally, the dream that the west end would be developed without this type of plan is of the pipe variety. No developer would touch it.

[stone hands]

It was a picture of my season tickets, but imgur isn't working correctly I guess

I'm glad you know exactly how much h time it takes me to get to and from the dome though

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by stone hands

It was a picture of my season tickets, but imgur isn't working correctly I guess

I'm glad you know exactly how much h time it takes me to get to and from the dome though

Fair enough, you are a seasons ticket holder. But the main point is that central is way better for the vast majority of attendees.

[Robbob]

Meh, I'd still be willing for my tax dollars to make this go. IMO I think it would be good for the city.

[stone hands]

Sure its way better. But is it worth the cost? I posit that it's not. At all. I'll also say that Calgary is not Glendale and the flames wouldn't have a problem selling out every game no matter where they put it.