Who has the most trade value today?

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

The Sens are one of the best management teams in getting value for their spending..... link

They would never take on Bouwmeester's 6.8M for next years lower cap.

If Bouwmeester goes anywhere the Flames will be taking back someone else's bad contract (potential buyout).

Philly would basically be forced to dump Briere to make room for Bouwmeester.

Pittsburgh has absolutely no room for Bouwmeester next year other than giving up one of their high paid, high production guys .....


PS the Flames are in salary cap jail next year so I don't think they will be keeping 2-3M of Bouwmeester salary to get rid of him....

I tink JayBow has a lot of trade value if the Flames are willing to pay part of his salary. I think the Flames should essentially "sell" cap space for draft picks. If they pay part of his contract so the other team has him at a lesser cap hit and can offord him, they might be willing to pay more for him.

[_Q_]

I think Bouwmeester could fetch us a pretty good return. Probably young centre (think Backlund type)+ decent prospect and a first round pick. Defencemen are in high demand right now and he has been pretty decent this year. If you can get that, then you move him without a question.

As for who plays on the first pairing? Who cares, when you start selling off assets, you aren't really worried about icing a competitive team any more. Not for this season anyways. I say make the Brodie-Wideman duo your top pairing and see how they fare and play Gio with Sarich since they have proven chemistry. Worst case scenario is your top pairing get eaten up alive and you go into summer knowing you need to acquire a top 4 defenceman. Best case scenario is Brodie continues his outstanding play and becomes a cornerstone of this franchise.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Poe969

I tink JayBow has a lot of trade value if the Flames are willing to pay part of his salary. I think the Flames should essentially "sell" cap space for draft picks. If they pay part of his contract so the other team has him at a lesser cap hit and can offord him, they might be willing to pay more for him.

Put it in reverse...... maybe the Flyers would keep 2-3 m of Briere's salary for the next 2 years and then would the Flames want to give them baertschi or the 2013 first round pick.


so the Flames get Briere at say 4 M for the next 2 years... (still can't afford him). Of course the Flames would not make this deal..... Why would Philly do an equivalent reverse trade?

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Nobody near the cap will want to give EL or low paid players or prospects to take on overpaid vets.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Poe969

I kind of agree... I wouldn't put Brodie on the top pairing. Wideman and maybe Butler or Sarich or someone else. I just think JayBow has so much trade value that you have to consider it. He'll make the team even better by turning into more assets

do you think that the first 15 games of better play by Bouwmeester on a lottery pick team in a shortened season wipes out the memory of a disappearing act down the stretch run for the last 2 years???

I know that a lot of NHL GMs are not the sharpest blades in the drawer but surely someone in the hockey business has to see beyond 15 games.

[Poe969]

I do think some teams would take a chance on JayBow. The Sens need a #1 defensman to take some of the minutes they now have, the Red Wings are in the same boat. I think both of those teams would want JayBow at a decreased salary. And yes, I do think he has some trade value because of what else is available

[Husky]

Top 3 D are in high demand due to lack of supply. Bouwmeester is overpaid but on a short contract. Bouwmeester has brought back his game to somewhat Flordia levels. Bouwmeester is still somewhat young.

I put it this way, a team like Detroit is usually somewhat frugal. Last year D were in short supply and they gave up a 1st for Kyle Quincy. People can argue well Hossa, Kovalchuk only got these assets, however those guys also wanted crazy large long term contracts which hurt their teams looking to trade them.

Bouwmeester is worth a 1st round pick, a blue chip prospect and a somewhat young roster player OR a 1st line forward with similar age and salary.

basically if the Flames somewhat blew it up and traded Kipper, Iginla and Bouwmeester this year they could probably net 2-3 1st round picks, a couple blue chip roster players and a couple young roster players. The question is.....will management go that way or stay status quo and on the "fence".

[$ven27]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

do you think that the first 15 games of better play by Bouwmeester on a lottery pick team in a shortened season wipes out the memory of a disappearing act down the stretch run for the last 2 years???

I know that a lot of NHL GMs are not the sharpest blades in the drawer but surely someone in the hockey business has to see beyond 15 games.

Brent didn't use him to his strengths like he did with a few other players. Quit dumping on the guy at every turn.

[Fozzie_DeBear]

Right now? Bouw

If he can get going? Iginla

[you got PHANUEFED]

Kipper has the most value to bring in the best return.
Iginla the least. You might get a first rounder just because of the name on the back of this guys jersey.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Husky

Top 3 D are in high demand due to lack of supply. Bouwmeester is overpaid but on a short contract. Bouwmeester has brought back his game to somewhat Flordia levels. Bouwmeester is still somewhat young.

I put it this way, a team like Detroit is usually somewhat frugal. Last year D were in short supply and they gave up a 1st for Kyle Quincy. People can argue well Hossa, Kovalchuk only got these assets, however those guys also wanted crazy large long term contracts which hurt their teams looking to trade them.

Bouwmeester is worth a 1st round pick, a blue chip prospect and a somewhat young roster player OR a 1st line forward with similar age and salary.

basically if the Flames somewhat blew it up and traded Kipper, Iginla and Bouwmeester this year they could probably net 2-3 1st round picks, a couple blue chip roster players and a couple young roster players. The question is.....will management go that way or stay status quo and on the "fence".

Over the last two years how do you come up with that Bouwmeester is better than Quincey?

Quincey is getting paid about half of what Bouwmeester is making.

Quincey cost Detroit a 1st round pick.... but Tampa got a first for Downie.

Using that trade as a template and the fact that Glencross is worth a lot more than Downie.... would Glencross bring in a 1st a roster player and blue chip prospect???

If the Flames could get a 19th overall pick for Bouwmeester I would be amazed.

[Vinny01]

Bouw is worth more than Quincey AINEC.