Thor asserts that in a couple generations, it will be painfully obvious that we have been damaging the planet, and almost everyone will be on side with protecting it.
At that point, people will be able to look back and see what idiots their forefathers were, by reading their exact words.
Or maybe he just has an old man writing fetish and is jealous of your grand kids.
One or the other.
I'll let George educate you on this statement
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Wasn't there a huge find discovered in Texas that is equal or greater to the size of the Bakkan formation? Can't really remember.
Depending on technology advancements and how easily/hard it can be extracted there are potentially billions of barrels there. Eagle Ford Shale or something IIRC.
Either way, this was bound to happen, but depending on how they regulate the safety aspect it could be a positive. The US is drilling like crazy now and things don't look to be slowing down.
Wasn't there a huge find discovered in Texas that is equal or greater to the size of the Bakkan formation? Can't really remember.
Depending on technology advancements and how easily/hard it can be extracted there are potentially billions of barrels there. Eagle Ford Shale or something IIRC.
Either way, this was bound to happen, but depending on how they regulate the safety aspect it could be a positive. The US is drilling like crazy now and things don't look to be slowing down.
what do you mean "bound to happen". This has been happening for years, decades.
There are many big shale plays in the states, Eagleford is one of them. Bakken is too. Eagleford is not new though.
what do you mean "bound to happen". This has been happening for years, decades.
There are many big shale plays in the states, Eagleford is one of them. Bakken is too. Eagleford is not new though.
That Carlin video is hilarious (and so true).
There were a lot of areas in the Arctic and other places on US land that have been off limits in terms of drilling. With time it was bound to happen that the government would allow oil companies to drill for them.
Eagle Ford is new in terms of being able to extract the oil, no?
My Dad told me when Unocal shut down their shale project that they could be profitable when oil was $75 per barrel. Well, we've been above that for some time now and that compnay hasn't done a thing to restart operations. Nor has Exxon who owns the largest portion of that shale deposit that sustained my family for a decade in the 80's.
It will be interesting to see what exactly it takes for the big oil companies to return to the American shale deposits and start mining and retorting again.
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There were a lot of areas in the Arctic and other places on US land that have been off limits in terms of drilling. With time it was bound to happen that the government would allow oil companies to drill for them.
Eagle Ford is new in terms of being able to extract the oil, no?
I think you might mean shale plays are new(ish...), but what's new? We've been extracting hydrocarbons from shale rocks for a few years now. I'm not really sure when the Eagleford started up, but I was first made aware of it about 2 years ago as our team was using it as a comparable. Sorry, not sure how new it is or how new your 'new' is haha.
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My Dad told me when Unocal shut down their shale project that they could be profitable when oil was $75 per barrel. Well, we've been above that for some time now and that compnay hasn't done a thing to restart operations. Nor has Exxon who owns the largest portion of that shale deposit that sustained my family for a decade in the 80's.
It will be interesting to see what exactly it takes for the big oil companies to return to the American shale deposits and start mining and retorting again.
The price of a barrel of oil went over $75, but costs also went up quite a bit. What shale deposit are you talking about? There are many that are being actively drilled and produced today in the U.S. Eagleford, Haynesville, etc.
Also, Alberta just passed the first of 7 new provincial districts. It is for protection of certain areas and environmental protection, and they are clawing back certain oilsands leases.
Why is this not being talked about? This is an example of how the government is trying to protect sensitive areas.
I am sure that in order for Shell to drill this well, they would have had to undergo a review of the land, potential impacts, the communities it might affect, an outline of its health and safety protocol, etc. There would have been approvals required from regional and state / federal jurisdictions to allow them to proceed. If people don't want Shell to go drill, stop using energy forms created through oil and gas. Oh wait, we're all hypocrites at the end of the day.
I think you might mean shale plays are new(ish...), but what's new? We've been extracting hydrocarbons from shale rocks for a few years now. I'm not really sure when the Eagleford started up, but I was first made aware of it about 2 years ago as our team was using it as a comparable. Sorry, not sure how new it is or how new your 'new' is haha.
The price of a barrel of oil went over $75, but costs also went up quite a bit. What shale deposit are you talking about? There are many that are being actively drilled and produced today in the U.S. Eagleford, Haynesville, etc.
I'm not talking about drilling. I'm talking about mining the shale and extracting the oil by heating up the rock.
That wiki article isn't entirely accurate. The Long Ridge facility is actually in Garfield County. Great Elk hunting up there too.
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I was just guessing at what Thor was talking about.
My personal thoughts on the planet are entirely selfish. I don't want run out of energy, and I don't want to pay too much for it. If someone is damaging something, they should be fixing it, not because i care that it gets fixed, but in 20 years some environmental group will get enough power that they will make sure it gets fixed, likely on the taxpayers dime. So right now if Fabricom is making a mint off polluting the environment, I want them to pay for thy right.
I don't want to breathe ####ty air, or have my kids do the same. I really don't care if someone in a developing country does, due to their own fledgling industry, except that it impacts me in a small way. I don't mind though, because that little but of pollution I need to deal with helps keep my laptop or HD TV from being to expensive and that's all I care about.
Spill in the Arctic and create some funky zebra looking polar bears? I don't really care, except that it might screw with the fish supply. Who really cares though, fish is gross, despite keeping the Maratimers employed. Same with baby seals - smash away. Sure they look cute, but why mess with 2 economies to save them?
But that's just me.
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Spill in the Arctic and create some funky zebra looking polar bears? I don't really care, except that it might screw with the fish supply. Who really cares though, fish is gross, despite keeping the Maratimers employed. Same with baby seals - smash away. Sure they look cute, but why mess with 2 economies to save them?
