The movie thread!

[habernac]

I was expecting The Joker again to be the one who killed Bruce Wayne's parents.

If I'm not mistaken, it was just done that way for the movie, the Joker did not kill his parents in the comic book.

[Hakan]

Originally posted by the_only_turek_fan+Jun 27 2005, 06:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (the_only_turek_fan @ Jun 27 2005, 06:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Batman Begins wasn't a prequel, it is a whole new set of movies. The plotlines, stories, etc of the new Batman movie have nothing to do with the Tim Burton and Joel Shumacher Batman movies (thank god)

And that answers a lot of questions.

I was really puzzled when I watched this movie as to why they switched the story.

I was expecting The Joker again to be the one who killed Bruce Wayne's parents.

I was kinda p*ssed off that they didnt go that route.

I am a huge Batman fan, and wasnt really happy with the way this one went.

I still think the first one was the best and always will be.

I do agree that Mr. Depp would make a great Joker though. Good call. [/b][/quote]
You're a huge Batman fan yet you have a problem with Joe Chill killing Batman's parents instead of the Joker?

I gather you're a huge fan of the earlier Batman movies and not that huge a fan of the comics. Which is fine. I'm just trying to figure that statement out.

[Phanuthier]

Originally posted by MrMastodonFarm+Jun 28 2005, 02:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MrMastodonFarm @ Jun 28 2005, 02:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Phanuthier@Jun 27 2005, 04:46 PM
Sin City 2 - thumbs down for me. I liked Sin City, because it was unique; different from anything that had been ever done (that I had seen anyways). The artistic touch, colour, ect was ingenius. But, to repeat it about would be like Oceans Twelve to me.

That's the thing though Ed, it wouldn't be a sequel. The Sin City graphic novels are many many stories put together that happen in Sin City. Sin City 2 would just be more of those stories. I realize in the movie world it would be hard to understand that, but the 2nd movie would just be more stories from the streets of Sin City.

Going into Sin City and not expecting much for the plot or acting, but the artistic touch)

I thought the stories and the acting was top notch... [/b][/quote]
I guess what I was trying to say was... Sin City was as big of a hit as it was, because it was different. I guess I would classify as one of the movie world guys as I never read the comics when I was younger, but considering it wasn't as popular as the Spiderman's and X-Man's and Superman's, how much would it hurt when only the comic guys are left?

Maybe then, it would be something better suited for just DVD?

Acting and plot... I guess it would be due to the fact that I wasn't a Sin City comic guy. I kind of got the idea that the dense dialogue was supposed to jive it more of the comic book feel, but I guess it didn't give for me. It was overkill at times. The plot, while designed to be segragated an come together, may not have jived as well with average movie guy either. If this was for a comic guy only, then I could start to understand where your coming from, but once again, limiting it to that side of the audience could hurt the movie.

Also, I think the sequal idea is getting a little too overused now. But, I guess sequals are to be expected when you are doing a Marvel movie.

My 2 cents anyways.

[the_only_turek_fan]

Originally posted by Hakan+Jun 27 2005, 08:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hakan @ Jun 27 2005, 08:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

And that answers a lot of questions.

I was really puzzled when I watched this movie as to why they switched the story.

I was expecting The Joker again to be the one who killed Bruce Wayne's parents.

I was kinda p*ssed off that they didnt go that route.

I am a huge Batman fan, and wasnt really happy with the way this one went.

I still think the first one was the best and always will be.

I do agree that Mr. Depp would make a great Joker though. Good call.

You're a huge Batman fan yet you have a problem with Joe Chill killing Batman's parents instead of the Joker?

I gather you're a huge fan of the earlier Batman movies and not that huge a fan of the comics. Which is fine. I'm just trying to figure that statement out. [/b][/quote]
I didnt read the comics, I have only seen the 4 recent movies.

The first one with Micheal Keaton and Jack Nicholson was probably my favourite movie ever.

I guess that is what I really meant to say.

[kermitology]

Sorry Sunil, but I think you should diversify your Batman background before you call yourself a Batman fan. Clearly the first Batman movie was well done, it was dark, the way Batman should be, not comicy like the last couple of movies. I haven't seen Batman Begins.. yet, but I know that the only think I expect from it is a return to the darkness that should be Batman. Relating things to the first set of movies is irrelevant, otherwise the Batman movies could have been like the old TV series, comicy and silly.

Then again, I've learned not to trust Sunil when it comes to movie suggestions, he thought Collateral was good.. Ugh.. Tom Cruise.. UGH!!!

[Hakan]

That's some pretty sweet photoshoping on that movie poster. Did they get some high school intern to do that or what?

[MrMastodonFarm]

Pictures from the set of the new Pirates movie.

http://www.ohjohnny.net/potc2/set379.jpg
http://www.ohjohnny.net/potc2/set376.jpg

[MrMastodonFarm]

Filed under the upcoming movie.. V for Vendetta.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/
http://www.insomniacmania.com/news_default.php?id=2477

In a story where Germany won a future World War and Great Britain is now a fascist state, a masked vigilante known only as "V" conducts guerrilla warfare against the government. When he rescues a normal young woman (Portman), she joins his struggle against the forces of oppression...

The graphic novel is amazing, and I'm really hoping this Alan Moore story makes a smooth transition to the big screen. Plus.. Natalie Portman is hot.

And this is for Cowperson,
http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=20603

This past weekend, Glen A. Larson appeared at the London Film & Comic Con. Anyway, one of the members of our site (Cylon.Org) went along and asked the Father/Creator the question if you're a fan of the classic Battlestar Galactica: "Is there going to be a movie?"

The answer is yes, and he's looking at a timescale of making it in 12-18 months and he's currently going over scripts for the film.

In blockbuster news, King Kong trailer is up for viewing.
http://www.kingkongmovie.com/ef239524432ba...7/en_large.html
Staring Naomi Watts, Adrien Brody, and Jack Black.. directed by Lord of the Rings Peter Jackson.

[Hakan]

I predict that King Kong movie will be a box office disappointment. Not even Peter Jackson can save what looks to be a boring typical script.

What is with Hollywood's love affair with King Kong movies?

Oh well, get working on Neon Genesis Evangelion Jackson!

[AC]

Originally posted by MrMastodonFarm@Jun 28 2005, 11:40 AM
Filed under the upcoming movie.. V for Vendetta.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/
http://www.insomniacmania.com/news_default.php?id=2477

The graphic novel is amazing, and I'm really hoping this Alan Moore story makes a smooth transition to the big screen. Plus.. Natalie Portman is hot.

Wow, that's weird. I just finished reading it.

I wonder how they'll handle it all, there are some aspects that I can't imagine would work in a movie well...

[Hack&Lube]

Originally posted by the_only_turek_fan+Jun 27 2005, 08:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (the_only_turek_fan @ Jun 27 2005, 08:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

You're a huge Batman fan yet you have a problem with Joe Chill killing Batman's parents instead of the Joker?

I gather you're a huge fan of the earlier Batman movies and not that huge a fan of the comics. Which is fine. I'm just trying to figure that statement out.

I didnt read the comics, I have only seen the 4 recent movies.

The first one with Micheal Keaton and Jack Nicholson was probably my favourite movie ever.

I guess that is what I really meant to say. [/b][/quote]
Let's just say most comic fans hated the first four films because of ridiculous liberties to the storyline like Joker creating Batman and also Batman actually intentionally killing people (including Joker) which is one of his cardinal rules. Batman can never kill, even to save himself. Maybe a case can be made for the whole bell-tower thing, but Batman killing goons with the guns on the Batmobile? Never! Mention that Joker killed Batman's parents and many Batfans will kill you :P. It's like the biggest pet peeve ever. There were so many other liberties...such as Alicia Silverstone as Batgirl being simply Alfred's niece. You'll find many Batfans appreciate the imagery and darkness of the first Keaton film, but really despise the product and I was relieved when it was Joe Chill (who has a more complicated plot in the comics) who killed Bruce's parents.

That said, Katie Holmes' character was the only character in Begins that didn't have at least a background story from the comics and was totally invented for the screenplay. Even though she has no comic analog, she fit the story in Begins at least and provided an emotional angle that wouldn't have been there otherwise.

I, as well as many true Batfans (ie: comic-reading) would like her to stick around actually...if only to be killed by Joker in the second film because it would fit with the dark nature of the Bat films to actually illustrate the true evil and brutality of Joker who up to now, has just been played by Nicholson as a Jack Nicholson laughing alot. In the comics, Joker brutally beats Robin to death, and also shoots Batgirl (who is the daughter of Commissioner Gordon) in the spine, paralyzing her for life.

In the Begins continuity, these two characters are at least 10 years too young or not yet even born to fill these roles (though there are opinions they actually appeared in the movie! Keep your eyes peeled) so we could get rid of the superfluous Rachel Dawes (Holmes) role neatly and also tie into the eventual story threat that will bring a true two-face into the fold (resulting from the 2nd Begins film) according to the writer of Begins...not just Tommy Lee Jones playing the Joker character all over again and laughing a lot...but a real torn and twisted guy with a split personality who used to be the District Attorney...in fact, many fans feel that Rachel's boss in Begins should have been Harvey Dent in the first place, but they need to keep that casting open for the future.

[Heaton]

[Cowboy]

Bewtiched: Now I haven't read this thread so I might be repeating others if they had the balls to admit to seeing this awful movie.

This movie was horrid, it was painful to watch. I caught my self watching my g/f watching this and shaking my head because she was laughing...I would not wish this jumbled, horrid movie upon anyone. The movie was about making a movie, and the acting in the "movie inside the movie" was hard to watch and just plain annoying.

[AC]

Originally posted by Heaton@Jun 28 2005, 09:11 PM
posted image

That's what I'm hoping the Joker will look like, but unfortunately, thats a fan-made poster.

It was made from this image:
from a 1928 movie, The Man Who Laughs.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Good find Anthony, it was an obvious fake, but it does look rather cool.

How did you like V for Vendetta? I won't go too much into plot details, but I really liked the graphic novel and you're right, it is going to be hard to put some of it on screen.

[MrMastodonFarm]

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/629/629684p1.html
A prequel to the Untochables?

Brian De Palma has just signed a deal with Paramount Pictures to direct The Untouchables: Capone Rising, a prequel to his 1987 film The Untouchables, according to today's Variety.

The Untouchables: Capone Rising, will center around Al Capone and Irish cop Jimmy Malone and track Capone's rise as king of the underworld.

Hmm, interesting news. I'm honestly not sure what to make of it, I think it can be a great film, but the whole prequel business is a tad annoying.

[AC]

Originally posted by MrMastodonFarm@Jun 29 2005, 08:37 AM
Good find Anthony, it was an obvious fake, but it does look rather cool.

How did you like V for Vendetta? I won't go too much into plot details, but I really liked the graphic novel and you're right, it is going to be hard to put some of it on screen.

I liked it, but found it do be rather dull in comparison to others. It was interesting, but it really didn't grab my attention.

I just found Y: The Last Man, and am loving that. It's well done, interesting plot line, and hilarious to boot. If you want, I can help you 'locate' them.

[MrMastodonFarm]

In X-Men news..
http://comics.ign.com/articles/629/629656p1.html

Today's Variety reports that X2 and X3 screenwriter Zak Penn has signed a two-year, first-look deal with 20th Century Fox, the studio behind the X-Men and Fantastic Four films.

As part of this pact, the trade says Penn is "expected to develop a film at the studio to direct, possibly a spinoff of the X-Men franchise. The movie would not be the either of the currently in-development Wolverine or Magneto project."
According to reliable sources, Penn's project centers around a group of mutant youngsters at Charles Xavier's school for gifted children. Expect some of those young protagonists to probably include characters already established in the X-Men movies.

That makes me pretty darn exciting. If done properly these movies can be amazing. I know Hugh Jackmen is already set and ready to go for the Wolverine movie, hopefully the Magneto one (which I had no idea about) will have Ian McKellen back.

The Mutant school spin off would be great as well, but hopefully won't turn into a turn movie.

[Hack&Lube]

Well...officially War of the Worlds sucks according to Ebert:

* * War of the Worlds (PG-13)

Creaking Havoc
"War of the Worlds" is a big, clunky movie containing some sensational sights but lacking the zest and joyous energy we expect from Steven Spielberg. It proceeds with the lead-footed deliberation of its 1950s predecessors to give us an alien invasion that is malevolent, destructive and, from the alien point of view, pointless. They've "been planning this for a million years" and have gone to a lot of trouble to invade Earth for no apparent reason and with a seriously flawed strategy. What happened to the sense of wonder Spielberg celebrated in "Close Encounters of the Third Kind," and the dazzling imagination of "Minority Report"?

I'm happy, maybe Batman can make a little more money then.

[Phanuthier]

Spinoff of X-men series... not sure if I like this either. At the risk of sounding imcredibly antagonistic, I don't know if I like the idea of turning movies into a longer version of TV episodes. Kinda like Daredevil and Elektra.

Saying that, X-men and X2 were so jam packed full of characters and info that if you weren't a fan, you wouldn't follow. It's a hard piece to do (and I thought the cartoon was hard enough to follow at times) but they did a pretty good job.