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[Thor]

America is the top example of cut taxes and shut out unions and remove restrictions on the rich, trickle down economics.

Yup, thats why you guys have so many amazing things going on in North America, while EU laughs at your face.

[Knut]

Originally Posted by Thor

America is the top example of cut taxes and shut out unions and remove restrictions on the rich, trickle down economics.

Yup, thats why you guys have so many amazing things going on in North America, while EU laughs at your face.

Yeah because the EU is utopia right now.

[Thor]

Oh it has so many issues, mostly it has a few nations sucking it down..

Remember EU is new, its in its early growing pains, it will figure its stuff out and get better.

But thats ok, you guys enjoy your 2-3 weeks vacation, while suffering massive poverty and an incredible wealth imbalance.

While in the union heavy EU, we all get 5 weeks paid vacation, tons of benefits, universal health care and thats the tip of the iceberg.

I'm tired of you guys trying to pretend you have it better than the EU, because that is simply delusional.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Thor

Oh it has so many issues, mostly it has a few nations sucking it down..

Remember EU is new, its in its early growing pains, it will figure its stuff out and get better.

But thats ok, you guys enjoy your 2-3 weeks vacation, while suffering massive poverty and an incredible wealth imbalance.

While in the union heavy EU, we all get 5 weeks paid vacation, tons of benefits, universal health care and thats the tip of the iceberg.

I'm tired of you guys trying to pretend you have it better than the EU, because that is simply delusional.

You might have it, but your kids or your grandkills are going to lose that and eventually end up with the 2 weeks vacation, while there is a massive reduction in social programs and pensions.

Its easy to be cocky now, but you and I both know that what you have now is unaffordable, especially if the EU has to prop up its basket case nations that refuse to implement austerity programs.

[Knut]

Not to mention the issues that face the Scanadanvin countries and their current model of Socialism. The biggest being Immigration and the polarizing effect it has had on the people. Their systems work because everyone buys into it and honor the system. Abuse of the system from new immigrants will force it to change and may force an extreme anti-immigrant movement (see Brevik, Anders ).

It also helps when you are a small country and can pop all the required systems into a few population centers. That is not practical in the spread out populations of Canada and the US. I think we will find in the coming years that the Canadian model is the best equipped to handle the financial crisis.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Hesla

Not to mention the issues that face the Scanadanvin countries and their current model of Socialism. The biggest being Immigration and the polarizing effect it has had on the people. Their systems work because everyone buys into it and honor the system. Abuse of the system from new immigrants will force it to change and may force an extreme anti-immigrant movement (see Brevik, Anders ).

It also helps when you are a small country and can pop all the required systems into a few population centers. That is not practical in the spread out populations of Canada and the US. I think we will find in the coming years that the Canadian model is the best equipped to handle the financial crisis.

What is it that Canadas system has that the others don't? What did we do differently to handle the financial crisis?

I don't think that the EU is a good model, but when you look at countries like Sweden and Denmark its hard to argue that they're somehow on the road to collapse. They've made some decisions away from the EU though and kept some flexibility.

[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by Hesla

Not to mention the issues that face the Scanadanvin countries and their current model of Socialism. The biggest being Immigration and the polarizing effect it has had on the people. Their systems work because everyone buys into it and honor the system. Abuse of the system from new immigrants will force it to change and may force an extreme anti-immigrant movement (see Brevik, Anders ).

It also helps when you are a small country and can pop all the required systems into a few population centers. That is not practical in the spread out populations of Canada and the US. I think we will find in the coming years that oil in the ground is what allows Canada to handle the financial crisis.

Fixed your second paragraph. Agreed with first.

[Slava]

Selling oil at 1/3 of the price in October 2008 didn't save things. Oil surely didn't help Ontario,Quebec, New Brunswick amongst others either. I think thats an easy off the cuff response, but probably not accurate.

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by Hesla

Not to mention the issues that face the Scanadanvin countries and their current model of Socialism. The biggest being Immigration and the polarizing effect it has had on the people. Their systems work because everyone buys into it and honor the system. Abuse of the system from new immigrants will force it to change and may force an extreme anti-immigrant movement (see Brevik, Anders ).

It also helps when you are a small country and can pop all the required systems into a few population centers. That is not practical in the spread out populations of Canada and the US. I think we will find in the coming years that the Canadian model is the best equipped to handle the financial crisis.

Serious question here.
Is that actually going on and is it a true and proven problem or is it just fear and blame?
Has there been some research into this with actually numbers?

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by Slava

Selling oil at 1/3 of the price in October 2008 didn't save things. Oil surely didn't help Ontario,Quebec, New Brunswick amongst others either. I think thats an easy off the cuff response, but probably not accurate.

I would guess it has a big impact when our dollar moves with the price of oil. I am not going to fake I know it but it sure seems that way.

[Knut]

Originally Posted by Slava

What is it that Canadas system has that the others don't? What did we do differently to handle the financial crisis?

I don't think that the EU is a good model, but when you look at countries like Sweden and Denmark its hard to argue that they're somehow on the road to collapse. They've made some decisions away from the EU though and kept some flexibility.

More opinion then anything. I just thing that the right balance of fiscal conservatism and social liberalism, here in Canada, iis ideal to ride out the storm.

When i lived in Sweden (2006) there was a strong sense of pending collapse of their valued social system. That is a big reason why Sweden has a party in power that leans towards minimal immigration. Chatting with people there, and relatives of mine in Norway, they felt their system was slipping away.

[Knut]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

Serious question here.
Is that actually going on and is it a true and proven problem or is it just fear and blame?
Has there been some research into this with actually numbers?

Maybe it is fear more than anything. But it was the sense I got from Manu Swedes when I loved there. There is a lot of honor system in their system and everyone came from the same value system. Obviously it will change things if a large population with different values enters the equation. BTW I am no way blaming the immigrants, more so the system being unable to handle the influx.

[HotHotHeat]

prime minister's government is also quietly bankrolling one of the largest social pilot projects ever

That's the key right there to me. No ceremony, no TV address, just doing it. Huffpost will have trouble spinning this one.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Hesla

More opinion then anything. I just thing that the right balance of fiscal conservatism and social liberalism, here in Canada, iis ideal to ride out the storm.

When i lived in Sweden (2006) there was a strong sense of pending collapse of their valued social system. That is a big reason why Sweden has a party in power that leans towards minimal immigration. Chatting with people there, and relatives of mine in Norway, they felt their system was slipping away.

Well I hate to break it to you, but we really didn't do anything different than most of the rest of the world. We were impacted to a lesser degree because our regulations heading in were more stringent, but basically we were right along with the rest of the world injecting money into the system.

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

That's the key right there to me. No ceremony, no TV address, just doing it. Huffpost will have trouble spinning this one.

It was posted there for a half a day as the top headline. The article wasn't bad but the comments were pathetic.

[zuluking]

Originally Posted by Thor

Oh it has so many issues, mostly it has a few nations sucking it down..

Remember EU is new, its in its early growing pains, it will figure its stuff out and get better.

But thats ok, you guys enjoy your 2-3 weeks vacation, while suffering massive poverty and an incredible wealth imbalance.

While in the union heavy EU, we all get 5 weeks paid vacation, tons of benefits, universal health care and thats the tip of the iceberg.

I'm tired of you guys trying to pretend you have it better than the EU, because that is simply delusional.

You need to read more news. The EU has already peaked; it's only downhill from here.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Thor

Oh it has so many issues, mostly it has a few nations sucking it down..

Remember EU is new, its in its early growing pains, it will figure its stuff out and get better.

But thats ok, you guys enjoy your 2-3 weeks vacation, while suffering massive poverty and an incredible wealth imbalance.

While in the union heavy EU, we all get 5 weeks paid vacation, tons of benefits, universal health care and thats the tip of the iceberg.

I'm tired of you guys trying to pretend you have it better than the EU, because that is simply delusional.

Where is this coming from (this is a thread about a Canadian social program) and what's with the total d-bag attitude about everything? Seriously, I thought you were above this kind of garbage.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by valo403

Where is this coming from (this is a thread about a Canadian social program) and what's with the total d-bag attitude about everything? Seriously, I thought you were above this kind of garbage.

No kidding.

I would especially not brag about anything the EU does right now considering they are dragging down the entire world economy.

The thread is about the Canadian government running an effective social program, and all Thor can do is act like a ######bag and brag about how the EU does it so much better. The same EU that has a serious financial crisis. Hilarious.

[GreatWhiteEbola]

Originally Posted by valo403

Where is this coming from (this is a thread about a Canadian social program) and what's with the total d-bag attitude about everything? Seriously, I thought you were above this kind of garbage.

Too much Brennivín?

[drhu22]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

I thought that's what the crime bill is for.

HAAA!
I had to log on...that was perfect!