Wow @ 5 Days In July @ #13. Insane how good that album is, and I missed it when it came out, preferring to listen to the likes of Snoop Doggy Dogg, Coolio, and Blackstreet. I discovered it around 5 years ago.
1.Bob Dylan/Hwy 61 Revisited (1965)
2.Elvis Presley/The Sun Sessions (1955/1987)
3.Nirvana/Nevermind (1991)
4.Bob Dylan/Bringing It All Back Home (1965)
5.The Byrds/Younger Than Yesterday (1967)
6.REM/Murmur (1983)
7.Marvin Gaye/What's Goin' On (1971)
8.Beach Boys/Pet Sounds (1966)
9.Television/Marquee Moon (1977)
10.Nuggets (1972)
Hard to do a US list - so much music.
Mine would include:
Prince - Purple Rain, Sign O' The Times
Springsteen - Born To Run, Born In The USA
Fleetwood Mac - Rumors
Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
Los Lobos - How Will The Wolf Survive?, Kiko
Husker Du - Zen Arcade, Warehouse: Songs And Stories
Replacements - Let It Be
REM - Life's Rich Pageant, Automatic For The People
Blondie - Parallel Lines
Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue, Bitches Brew
John Coltrane - Giant Steps
Modest Mouse - The Moon And Antarctica
TV On The Radio - Dear Science
Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin
Wilco - Summer Teeth
Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
Pearl Jam - 10
Nirvana - Nevermind, In Utero
Frank Zappa - Sheik Yerbouti
Belly - King
Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland
Talking Heads, Ramones, Pixies etc, forgetting so much
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Well, even as a huge Zeppelin fan, I think most of their lyrics were utter gibberish and they (mostly Paige) were renowned for ripping off other artists and "borrowing" a lot of material from African-American blues musicians. The Beatles may have changed pop music but I wouldn't call anything pre-Sgt. Pepper's to be pushing the boundaries. The only band on your list really on par with Floyd as far as innovation and originality goes is Queen.
Really, though, the biggest reason Floyd deserve to be up there is because nobody was doing what they did when they did it. Everything they did was pretty well technically flawless while managing not to be completely sterile like some of the good technical players that came after them (i.e. Satriani). Gilmour might be one of the most gifted guitar players ever and the songwriting was top notch in the post-Barrett years.
I'll give Floyd their due, were progressive at the time with noise rock and precursors of prog and anthemic stuff. But, I think that that contribution is very overstated. I would say they weren't the innovators many say they are. They didn't come up with the concept album, the Beatles did. They didn't come up with the big tours, Rolling Stones did. Their branch of spinoff music just pales compared to Led Zepplin. And they just weren't even close to Bowie on innovation, reinvention and boundaries.
I think many people try to deny the fact that Floyd at its height was just another glorified pop band. They weren't technically amazing as musicians. And in the end they were not very humble and it hurt the prodct. I know this is heresy to fans but the Wall is probably the most egotistical album I've ever heard and for all the wrong reasons. Operatic rock wasn't new when it was made and it's a gratuitous waste. Wall should be one cd.
Now that I type this I would say that Animals probably belongs in the top 10 British albums but I don't see the reverie for the band that many do.
They just didn't have the impact of the other megagroups in my opinion. Beatles are obvious. Stones invented the concert tour. And the Stones' best albums are probably better than Floyd's. Stick Fingers anyone? Again Bowie was the consummate innovator with albums that are considerably better than Floyd, in Low and Ziggy. Clash have one of the best albums of all time in London Calling both musically and artistically. Led Zepplin just has the overwhelming amount of singles and complete albums compared to Floyd.
If you look at it, Floyd has Dark Side, Animals, The Wall, and Obscured. Three or four albums that are of merit but even then they don't really stand next to the big albums of the aforementioned groups. This is all in my opinion at least.
While (supposedly, and I say this as I am not a Clash fan per say and don't find this album to be one of Strummer's stronger talent endorsements) London Calling is regarded as one of the best albums ever recorded, I have a hard time seeing it listed higher then a Beatles Album. Even a rather weak one like Revolver.
I've always been wondering what makes Londong calling a good album, let alone one of the best ever.
Oasis and Arctic Monkey are pure garbage tho. The UK music scene is the most overrated music scene in the world.
In regards to Pink Floyd, you cant deny that Dark Side of the Moon was/is a rock culture phenomenon. Also, there is no doubt in my mind Pink Floyd are far better musicians than the Rolling Stones. Furthermore, I just cant stand Mick Jagger's voice, he cant sing! Dont get me wrong i dont hate the Stones, but in regards to musical skill they cant touch Pink Floyd.
Richard Wright, David Gilmore, Nick Mason, Roger Watters, these guys are talented-Richard Wright in particular. Pink Floyd had a very unique sound for their time no denying that.
In regards to Pink Floyd, you cant deny that Dark Side of the Moon was/is a rock culture phenomenon. Also, there is no doubt in my mind Pink Floyd are far better musicians than the Rolling Stones. Furthermore, I just cant stand Mick Jagger's voice, he cant sing! Dont get me wrong i dont hate the Stones, but in regards to musical skill they cant touch Pink Floyd.
Richard Wright, David Gilmore, Nick Mason, Roger Watters, these guys are talented-Richard Wright in particular. Pink Floyd had a very unique sound for their time no denying that.
Charlie Watts and Bill Wyman are fantastic musicians.
I'll give Floyd their due, were progressive at the time with noise rock and precursors of prog and anthemic stuff. But, I think that that contribution is very overstated. I would say they weren't the innovators many say they are. They didn't come up with the concept album, the Beatles did. They didn't come up with the big tours, Rolling Stones did. Their branch of spinoff music just pales compared to Led Zepplin. And they just weren't even close to Bowie on innovation, reinvention and boundaries.
I think many people try to deny the fact that Floyd at its height was just another glorified pop band. They weren't technically amazing as musicians. And in the end they were not very humble and it hurt the prodct. I know this is heresy to fans but the Wall is probably the most egotistical album I've ever heard and for all the wrong reasons. Operatic rock wasn't new when it was made and it's a gratuitous waste. Wall should be one cd.
Now that I type this I would say that Animals probably belongs in the top 10 British albums but I don't see the reverie for the band that many do.
They just didn't have the impact of the other megagroups in my opinion. Beatles are obvious. Stones invented the concert tour. And the Stones' best albums are probably better than Floyd's. Stick Fingers anyone? Again Bowie was the consummate innovator with albums that are considerably better than Floyd, in Low and Ziggy. Clash have one of the best albums of all time in London Calling both musically and artistically. Led Zepplin just has the overwhelming amount of singles and complete albums compared to Floyd.
If you look at it, Floyd has Dark Side, Animals, The Wall, and Obscured. Three or four albums that are of merit but even then they don't really stand next to the big albums of the aforementioned groups. This is all in my opinion at least.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I don't think you understand what good music is at all. Pink Floyd stands alone in all the groups you listed. Their sound is unique, their writing is unique, all of them are/were extremely talented and intelligent musicians. Pink Floyd may very well be the greatest band of all time. And what's amazing about the band is they only ever had one #1 hit.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I don't think you understand what good music is at all. Pink Floyd stands alone in all the groups you listed. Their sound is unique, their writing is unique, all of them are/were extremely talented and intelligent musicians. Pink Floyd may very well be the greatest band of all time. And what's amazing about the band is they only ever had one #1 hit.
Their music is timeless.
Ok, I'll bite!
Pink Floyd were a fairly predictable and mundane group of musicians that came out of the same scene (the UFO) that gave rise to the Canterbury sound of Soft Machine, Robert Wyatt even Mike Oldfield they were all heavily influenced by jazz but not nearly talanted enough to play it so came up with a much simpler version of it. It isn't particularly origanal, it's just what british white guys who grew up playing simple blues play when they realise they can't come close to Miles Davis or Sun Ra or Ornette Colman, I loathe the free jazz experiments of the sixties but that is what Floyd where trying to do. Check out Soft Machine, they were far better at it.
I say all of this as an occasional Floyd fan who has seen them live a few times.
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