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Old 11-22-2025, 10:15 PM   #541
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That highlights more where we are different. I’m not stressed at all about needing Kadri because of his position. Especially for a hypothetical line, where one linemate hasn’t been drafted and the other may not even play with him.

They really need to stay focused on the big picture.
I’m not stressed about it being Kadri in particular, but I do think skilled prospects need skilled veterans around. It’s a weakness I think SJ has. MacKinnon has Tanguay and Stasny, Crosby had Mario. If the Flames trade Kadri IMO they will need to sign short term vets, but not just any short term vets. Guys with real skill.
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Old 11-22-2025, 10:15 PM   #542
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Fans defending the Flames effectively comes down to:

“The Flames not complete morons”

It takes bold moves and excellent management to build a Championship quality team. Perhaps expectations should be raised?
It does? seems like a lot of falling ass backwards into good players with a side of good geography
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Old 11-22-2025, 10:34 PM   #543
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It does? seems like a lot of falling ass backwards into good players with a side of good geography
So you admit drafting at the top is at the very least a big part of what is required to build a Championship quality team, and that by the Flames taking the opposite stance, they’ve been dumb and wrong all along?
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Old 11-22-2025, 10:35 PM   #544
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So you admit drafting at the top is at the very least a big part of what is required to build a Championship quality team, and that by the Flames taking the opposite stance, they’ve been dumb and wrong all along?
They have taken the opposite stance?
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Old 11-22-2025, 10:36 PM   #545
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Flames are in last place
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Old 11-22-2025, 10:37 PM   #546
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They have taken the opposite stance?
For the modern era, yes. As noted by their lack of top draft picks, and to this day open refusal of the approach.
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Old 11-22-2025, 10:38 PM   #547
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It does? seems like a lot of falling ass backwards into good players with a side of good geography
The geography thing is overblown.

Pittsburgh isn't good geography but with Crosby / Malkin they had no issue attracting players.

Chicago was a laughing stock for most of the 90s and early 00s, nobody wanted to play for Wirtz. But Kane and Toews come along and that all changes.

Los Angeles wasn't really a top market in the 00s but they get Doughty and Kopitar and it became an attractive destination again.

The Panthers were another team that were the laughing stock of the league for years, but they drafted Huberdeau, Barkov and Ekblad, shrewdly made moves which included moving Huberdeau for Tkachuk and become the most attractive destination in the NHL after 30 years of being a laughing stock.

Good geography does help, but having elite star players that guys think they can win with are what keeps and attracts players to your organization.
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Flames are in last place
And are acting like it's a curse and the worse thing that could ever happen.

I'm not saying you need to be happy to be 32nd overall, but you can at least acknowledge that drafting 1st overall is a huge opportunity and benefit for any organization.
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Old 11-22-2025, 10:41 PM   #549
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For the modern era, yes. As noted by their lack of top draft picks, and to this day open refusal of the approach.
Well trading almost all your good players for future picks and prospects and not bringing in any current day talent to replace those traded players would suggest that it is a soft refusal at best to that approach. For one to say they refuse that approach would be a complete denial of reality.
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Old 11-22-2025, 10:42 PM   #550
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Disagree. You know CP is really cooking when someone on FOI starts defending Nazis for no reason.
So a made-up accusation makes someone guilty of being a Nazi now?

OK, you're a Nazi. And if you say you're not, that makes you guilty of defending Nazis. You filthy Nazi, you.
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Old 11-22-2025, 10:44 PM   #551
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Fans defending the Flames effectively comes down to:

“The Flames are not complete morons”

It takes bold moves and excellent management to build a Championship quality team. Perhaps expectations should be raised?
OK. how about starting with the fans whose expectation is that the Flames will be complete morons?
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I'm quite a bit more concerned about Pierre LeBrun's, Darren Dreger's, and Frank Seravalli's statements about Murray Edwards than the Maloney interview.

And I don't think it's fair to judge Craig Conroy's selling trades in terms of timing, or whether they're made at all.
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Old 11-22-2025, 10:49 PM   #553
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It does? seems like a lot of falling ass backwards into good players with a side of good geography
Geography isn’t important, see exhibit A. It’s Edmonton! A city where we show nothing except the mountains that are 4 hours away.


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Old 11-22-2025, 10:52 PM   #554
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And are acting like it's a curse and the worse thing that could ever happen.

I'm not saying you need to be happy to be 32nd overall, but you can at least acknowledge that drafting 1st overall is a huge opportunity and benefit for any organization.
No one wants to rebuild.

They never said this wasn't a good opportunity. He did try to temper the expectations on McKenna some
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No one wants to rebuild.

They never said this wasn't a good opportunity. He did try to temper the expectations on McKenna some
He downplayed the impact of high picks at every opportunity in the interviews

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OK. how about starting with the fans whose expectation is that the Flames will be complete morons?
I do really like Craig Conroy as GM.

But I'm not sure Don Maloney or Murray Edwards get any benefit of the doubt due to the lack of success they've both had in their NHL careers.
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Flames should probably just take the #### offers the Flames currently have that Elliotte referenced in the 2nd intermission just to keep a vocal portion of the fanbase happy.
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I missed it what did Friedman say?
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Old 11-22-2025, 11:16 PM   #558
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I missed it what did Friedman say?
Friedman: No good trade offers right now for the Flames. Doesn't know of any vets that are unhappy. Would be personally really surprised if Conroy wasn't extended. Doesn't understand why they had to do these interviews at this point in the season.

Pretty much what everyone already knew.
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I missed it what did Friedman say?

Says he doesn’t understand why that happened now with so many games left in the season.

Also said that the management shouldn’t throw fuel on the fire.


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Also said that the management shouldn’t throw fuel on the fire.
Occupational hazard, when the owners are in the oil and gas business. Those guys throw fuel on everything.
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