The Ducks are a very good team, they pretty much have it all with playoff experience to boot. We know the Flames can beat them but they need to play a much cleaner game, they have to do the little things right or they will be burned by the Ducks. The Flames are not good enough to overcome so many mistakes. The Flames can play better, we have seen them play better.
Good learning experience. Now you know what not to do.
Also time for Johnny, Troy and Lance to put their big boy pants on and get to work. There are no excuses this time of year. You either want enough to sacrifice or you play live you played game 1.
I hope everyone has calmed down, but I'm not counting on that.
Guys, the bad line change was the mental lapse that cost the game. Almost everything outside of that, the Flames played well or weathered the storm. They didn't score on a 5 on 3. Unfortunate, but guess what? The Ducks didn't score on their 5 on 3.
The Ducks are a good team and well coached. Were you expecting the Flames to dominate a good team for 60 minutes? Good teams play well at home, people really need to back away from the ledge.
The Flames were edged in a tight contest, and will regroup. Some obvious areas need to be improved like face offs, but in other areas they played really well.
I'm definitely sad and mad we lost, but no one has gone 16-0 in the playoffs.
Onward!
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1) Hamilton's worst game of the entire season. Won't happen again. He'll be better.
2) Should have called a timeout before that 5 on 3. The first unit had been on for the preceeding shift, could have used the rest, and taken the time to get on the same page for zone entry and play up front.
3) Anyone seen Matthew Tkachuk lately? As I said in the other thread, I think that he hasn't been anywhere near the player we expect since he was given the "talking to" by management and his teammates.
4) After waiting for playoff Brouwer, i'm still waiting to be convinced he brings anything to this team. Wrong fit.
5) Ferland was great.
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After finally sobering up this morning, much that needs to be said has already been said.
-Hamilton was brutal. Maybe his worst game as a Flames since his 1st season. Played soft along the boards all night, was shooting from the point into the first Duck down to block which resulted in rushes the other way all night long. And a terrible penalty after the Getzlaf hit. Brutal penalty. He was one of the players I was kind of worried about not having an extra gear come playoff time and maybe taking a step back. But we need him at his best if we are to win the next game
-The Ducks are the franchise who we struggle against the most. Winning game 1 was sure to swing the Flames' franchise tide against them after 14 brutal years. And it was looking good. Until quite possible the worst line change in franchise history. Not even kidding when I saw it was the worst. Common guys. This couldn't happen in some no name game in November? Had to be at what was possibly a turning point game for the Flames franchise? I'm fulling expecting the Flames to be mocked endlessly for that, and plenty of ''this guy scored'' memes.
-Elliott was the best player by far, and if he plays like that, he gives us a chance to win the series.
-Someone made a thread last week about why Hathaway wasn't in over Bouma, and for some ridiculous reason the majority of poster thought Hathaway wasn't an upgrade over anyone in the lineup. I couldn't believe what I was reading. Are you f'ing kidding me? Hathaway has proven time and again that he's exactly the type of player you need in games like this. To me it's mind boggling that he's not playing.
-Didn't notice Brouwer once last night. Disappointing for someone who was preaching how he prides himself on showing up come playoffs. What a crock that was and he probably only said that because he had a mic in his face. Players like him are exactly why I have zero issues with GM's low-balling players with offers at any point in their careers. Hurt feelings be damned. These are professionals playing in the best league in the world at the best salaries. Performance matters.
Flames had this one. But this isn't the first time they've had the lead at the Honda Center and lost. The curse is very real my friends. Because it's always something. A terrible line change. A post at the worst time. Players missing wide open nets. A brutal bounce that goes in our net. It's always god damn SOMETHING every game there.
I don't doubt we'll see a better effort and execution next game. But will it be enough?
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You expected him to be the same "type" of player as a guy who is completely unique and whose like we're probably never going to see again? There's no "Datsyuk type player".
Johnny is fine. He's not going to win the Selke, he's going to be an incredibly skilled, creative, high hockey-iq player who puts up a lot of points and makes his teammates better in the other team's end. In that category, he's already elite. He's also one of the most fun guys to watch in the league. If you want more, I say you're just greedy.
No he isn't...not playing the way he was last night.
There were at least 5 times he turned the puck over either in his own zone or in the neutral zone and right in the middle of the ice. That stuff will bury ANY team in this league. He is also starting to cheat when the puck is in Calgarys end...something you simply cannot do against a team like Anaheim.
Is he fine in the offensive end? Probably but that remains to be seen as well.
However there are 2 other zones in hockey and if he continues to ignore that aspect of the game, he will be rendered completely ineffective and a liability moving forward.
He is looking "scared" at ytimes and trying to get to damn fancy with the puck in all the wrong areas...danglling in the offensive zone is fine and dandy and hopefully successful Doing it when the situation calls for anything but? Not acceptable.
I have no doubt Gelinas will sit down with him today and go over some video of his play last night and we see engaged and smart Johnny tomorrow.
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3) Anyone seen Matthew Tkachuk lately? As I said in the other thread, I think that he hasn't been anywhere near the player we expect since he was given the "talking to" by management and his teammates.
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Why was he given a talking to?
the elbow to Doughty and then some of the antics the following game.
I think they should just tell him..."go out there and create complete chaos" and tlet the chips fall where they may. It will re-engage him and bring some much needed energy to the club if it works.
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But the drawing of conclusions about the type of player he is, based on last night, is chicken little territory.
Anybody remember game 1 against Vancouver in 2004? When we lost 5-2 and Sutter called out his best players? Iginla, Conroy and Gelinas? We all remember how that ended up.
The game was frustrating because of how they lost. But it was encouraging, they clean up the nonsense, they're right in this.
In 2015 they weren't even in the same class as Anaheim, that was obvious from the drop of the puck in that series. This one is and will be different.
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But the drawing of conclusions about the type of player he is, based on last night, is chicken little territory.
Anybody remember game 1 against Vancouver in 2004? When we lost 5-2 and Sutter called out his best players? Iginla, Conroy and Gelinas? We all remember how that ended up.
The game was frustrating because of how they lost. But it was encouraging, they clean up the nonsense, they're right in this.
In 2015 they weren't even in the same class as Anaheim, that was obvious from the drop of the puck in that series. This one is and will be different.
Gaudreau has been like this all season.
He has seemingly abandoned what made him so successful in the first place.
When was the last time you saw him stick lift a guy on the back check to turn the puck back the other way?
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I still don't understand how that bad line change happened. All 5 guys skated somewhat leisurely to the bench while the Ducks played the puck. Surely one of the coaches could have identified what was happening and wave at least the D back out?
Allowing a 3-0 break is a travesty.
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on the line change I think it's chiasson who is the guiltiest party.
He's the last guy to make the decision to go, it's his ice that the puck travels through to get up to getzlaf and it's his man coming on the ice that is the last to backtrack the forwards coming into the zone.
Honourable mention to Bennett who doesn't take a stride between his own blueline and the bench.
