Unless it's an animated kids movie, original idea does not usually constitute "big." People get hyped for stuff they know. There's probably an original idea that going to do really well, like the original John Wick, but nobody is going to be hyped for it a year out.
I think Avatar is the only movie in the top 50 gross that was an original idea. ET and Avatar when you adjust the top 10 for inflation.
Armaggedon was the last non-animated top box office movie of the year that was an original idea... 24 years ago.
Titanic was surely more original of an idea than Avatar though.
Avatar was much closer to Ferngully, Dances with Wolves, Pocohantas and the like. I mean at least Juliet survived to old age in Titanic.
But looking at 1998, there was a lot of original ideas dominating the box office that year. Titanic (though premiering at the end of 1997), Armageddon, Saving Private Ryan, even Something About Mary and the Waterboy.
Titanic was surely more original of an idea than Avatar though.
I kind of agree and I definitely waffled on it myself. Titanic was based on a bunch of different things (including a real event, obviously) so you could make the argument that it isn't entirely original.
That's a whole other conversation about originality, I guess. If Top Gun 2 has an original story, is that any less original than Titanic? It's based off something and has some pretty strong connections to that thing, but it is it's own story.
Either way, adding or removing a few films doesn't change things much. People get hyped on things they're familiar with and enjoy. That's not strange.
Excluding all historic movies, like anything set in World War 2, would seem a pretty tough bar to set. Like would Once Upon a Time in Hollywood not count because it has fictionalized historic characters? Inglorious Bastards because Hitler was in it? And then what about Armageddon using NASA then?
Besides, I mean Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter was probably as historically accurate as Titanic was anyways.
Avatar was much closer to Ferngully, Dances with Wolves, Pocohantas and the like. I mean at least Juliet survived to old age in Titanic.
But looking at 1998, there was a lot of original ideas dominating the box office that year. Titanic (though premiering at the end of 1997), Armageddon, Saving Private Ryan, even Something About Mary and the Waterboy.
Ferngully, Dances and Pocahontas aren’t original stories either.
And realistically, very, very few movies are original ideas. Armageddon sure wasn’t. Saving Private Ryan wasn’t. Mary and Waterboy are derivative of numerous other works with only certain details changed.
We should also differentiate between an “original idea” (whatever that means) and an adaptation of a work from another medium and a sequel/prequel/reboot.
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Excluding all historic movies, like anything set in World War 2, would seem a pretty tough bar to set. Like would Once Upon a Time in Hollywood not count because it has fictionalized historic characters? Inglorious Bastards because Hitler was in it? And then what about Armageddon using NASA then?
Besides, I mean Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter was probably as historically accurate as Titanic was anyways.
But agreed that your point stands.
You picked a bad film as an example. Everyone knows that Abraham Lincoln was vehemently opposed to disrespectful blood-sucking vermin invading the free union of states that he had worked so hard to build.
And he was having none of it.
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I know I'm starting to get comic book movie'd out when there's a new Batman movie coming out in March and I really wouldn't be too fussed to wait to see it streaming.
From that list I'm probably most interested in Top Gun and Across the Spider-verse. And Mission Impossible 7, which isn't listed.
I don't think the originals make the early hype lists.
Think of box office runs like American Sniper, the hype starts only a couple weeks before the run. If there is something like that coming 6 months from now very people people currently know.
Also consider than as the pandemic restrictions eased off, it was probably a lot easier to get big budget blue chip properties off the ground, riskier ventures are probably about a year behind the blockbusters, with production delays.
I'm only excited about Thor, Spider-man, John Wick and Doctor Strange.
I'll take a wait and see approach on the other Marvel properties and the DC films. The League of Superpets looked interesting until I realized it's just another Rock and Kevin Hart movie.
All the others are a big meh especially Fantastic Beasts and Jurassic World that have already been ruined for my by their predecessors.
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Rewatched Spiderman 2 yesterday in prep for Thursday. It's still so good, the CGI has aged poorly but literally everything else is perfection. It's on my Mt. Rushmore of Marvel films.
I re watched far from home in anticipation as well. Tom Holland has been such a great choice as Peter.
So far according to rotten tomatoes is at 98% for No Way Home. Now to stay off social media for a few more days
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