[News] Oilers Scratch Yakupov... Again

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

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Originally Posted by powderjunkie

For what it's worth, Dreger/Nonis are 2nd (or 3rd) cousins...

Even if they were brothers or just friends, it just seems more and more like Dreger is being paid by the Leafs, especially in the last 6 months.

The funny thing is, Dreger's a born & raised Oilers fan. Probably just frustrated with his team.


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[powderjunkie]

^No question about that, and he is a total ######. I just don't know that they go to the same Thanksgiving and Xmas dinners.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Oilers last year- Shots for:26.5 Shots against:32.2

-5.7 per game

Oilers this year- Shots for:24.7 Shots against:25.8

-1.1 per game


Its still early but there's huge improvement there. They have gone from terribad to the mushy middle.

Or teams are able to move the puck around easier in the Oilers zone to set up shots from better points on the ice.

Stats only mean so much my friend. When you watch the Oilers play its almost like they're scared of their own boards and the area in front of their own net.

They might be giving up less shots, but I bet the quality chances against are up significantly.

And make no mistake they are terrible.

[Vinny01]

The Oilers are going to trade one of their winger kids eventually. Yakupov will want $6M per year. I understand the BPA draft model but taking 4 wingers and 2 small centres the previous 6 drafts before the last one is proving to be a mistake by Edmonton.

Yakupov for Reimer and Gardiner
Yakupov for Simmonds and Coburn
Eberle for Stewart, Elliot, Polak
Oilers add mediocre prospect to above deals

Yakupov, Hemsky, Dubnyk for Miller, Vanek, Myers

[EYE_Overstand]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

The Oilers are going to trade one of their winger kids eventually. Yakupov will want $6M per year. I understand the BPA draft model but taking 4 wingers and 2 small centres the previous 6 drafts before the last one is proving to be a mistake by Edmonton.

Yakupov for Reimer and Gardiner
Yakupov for Simmonds and Coburn
Eberle for Stewart, Elliot, Polak
Oilers add mediocre prospect to above deals

Yakupov, Hemsky, Dubnyk for Miller, Vanek, Myers

The trade with philly would instantly make EDM better.... and the trade with STL wouldn't include Polak (at least not this year... it seems STL are making their big push for the cup the next few seasons)

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by EYE_Overstand

The trade with philly would instantly make EDM better.... and the trade with STL wouldn't include Polak (at least not this year... it seems STL are making their big push for the cup the next few seasons)

The Blues would get a game breaking forward which is what they lack the most. EDM can throw in Nick Scultz to play on the Blues bottom pair.

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

The Blues would get a game breaking forward which is what they lack the most. EDM can throw in Nick Scultz to play on the Blues bottom pair.

Polak is significantly better than Schultz.

[dying4acup]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

The Blues would get a game breaking forward which is what they lack the most. EDM can throw in Nick Scultz to play on the Blues bottom pair.

And how, exactly, would Yak and Hitch get along?

[Wastedyouth]

In his first. 53 GP. Yakupov has as many goals/points as Stamkos and Hall did. I think he'll be alright.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

In his first. 53 GP. Yakupov has as many goals/points as Stamkos and Hall did. I think he'll be alright.

This HARDLY tells the whole story...

Stamkos had a very quiet start to his NHL career, registering only 4 points in his first 15 games, and 7 in his first 20. After game #53, he scored 21 points in his final 26 games, and then followed that up with 14 in his first ten in the 2009–10 season.

Yakupov had a respectable 12 points in his first 20 pressure-free games, finished a shortened season with 31 in 48 games, and has been completely shut-out in his first six games this year.

Are you seriously trying to suggest that there is a legitimate comparison to be made here? Stamkos showed a tonne of progression and improvement since he started his NHL career, and once he hit his stride, he never looked back. Yakupov's trajectory has so far appeared to be moving in the opposite direction.

[Where ru Chris O'Sullivan]

Philly and Edmonton need to have one of those old school 6 for 6 deals where they turn over a 1/3 of the roster.

God bless Kevin Lowe and I have no idea how he will survive this. If I was the owner it would be a complete, house cleaning.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

The Blues would get a game breaking forward which is what they lack the most. EDM can throw in Nick Scultz to play on the Blues bottom pair.

The Blues aren't building toward something in a couple years. If Yakupov was actually a "game breaking forward" right now, they might consider it. Given he is an ineffective sloth right now, I question whether they would want to put that attitude into their locker room, knowing they would have to figure out how to train him into playing a team game.

The best places for Yakupov right now are teams that aren't trying to win. Buffalo, Florida and the like. Places where he can be given the time to (hopefully) mature a little.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

In his first. 53 GP. Yakupov has as many goals/points as Stamkos and Hall did. I think he'll be alright.

Yeah he'll be fine. Look at the Oilers track record developing their top prospects like Cogliano, Hemsky, Gagner, Gilbert, Pouliot.........oh wait.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by Where ru Chris O'Sullivan

Philly and Edmonton need to have one of those old school 6 for 6 deals where they turn over a 1/3 of the roster.

God bless Kevin Lowe and I have no idea how he will survive this. If I was the owner it would be a complete, house cleaning.

He will survive because the owner is a super '80s boys on the bus fanboy. And even if he does get "fired" he won't be gone from the organization. Look at MacTavish. I think most people would do a complete housecleaning, but until Katz decides he wants a hockey team instead of trying to relive 30 years ago things just arn't going to change for the Oilers.

[Enoch Root]

I might be Yakupov's biggest critic on these boards and I would be the first to say that Yak for Reimer favours the Leafs ridiculously, never mind the Leafs actually turning it down.

That's a joke.

[Robo]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

In his first. 53 GP. Yakupov has as many goals/points as Stamkos and Hall did. I think he'll be alright.

typical oiler fan response they don't suck as long as they are getting points...He isn't going to be alright unless he decides to at least work on other aspects of his game. He is awful right now I understand that players hit slumps but when you aren't contributing offensively at least you can contribute defensively Yak isn't even doing that.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I might be Yakupov's biggest critic on these boards and I would be the first to say that Yak for Reimer favours the Leafs ridiculously, never mind the Leafs actually turning it down.

That's a joke.

I agree based on talent it's a little one-sided but the Russian factor devalues Yakupov somewhat. It's why Nichushkin dropped in the draft and the reason I hoped to god Calgary didn't pick him. There's always going to be question marks regarding willingness to play a team game, work hard, be a leader, the option of the KHL, etc. Reimer isn't going anywhere and doesn't have any character issues so long term he may be a safer bet. I think the Leafs may have to throw in a draft pick or prospect off the farm but I don't think Yakupov's value is as high as your typical 1st overall draft pick.

[old-fart]

Didn't Reimer get injured in the game last night? This could be off the table, at least for now.

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

Link to interview is attached to this tweet:

Rob Tychkowski‏@Sun_Tychkowski5m
Tough week for Yakupov. Russian Olympic scout Igor Kravchuk unimpressed with 64 right now. http://proxy.autopod.ca/podcasts/chum/179/16630/kravchuk%20on%20yakupov.mp3 …

Here's the associated SI article:

http://nhl.si.com/2013/10/16/russian...has-no-future/

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

This HARDLY tells the whole story...

Stamkos had a very quiet start to his NHL career, registering only 4 points in his first 15 games, and 7 in his first 20. After game #53, he scored 21 points in his final 26 games, and then followed that up with 14 in his first ten in the 2009–10 season.

Yakupov had a respectable 12 points in his first 20 pressure-free games, finished a shortened season with 31 in 48 games, and has been completely shut-out in his first six games this year.

Are you seriously trying to suggest that there is a legitimate comparison to be made here? Stamkos showed a tonne of progression and improvement since he started his NHL career, and once he hit his stride, he never looked back. Yakupov's trajectory has so far appeared to be moving in the opposite direction.

Not a fan of Yak, but your 12 points in 20 (0.60)and 19 points in the last 28 (0.68) actually shows improvement. The six games this year is way too small a sample size to mean much.
I think if MacT was serious about making a change, Yak is the most obvious guy to move. Hall/Eberle/Nuge all got paid as cornerstones and Yak isn't there yet. I hope they move him for an overrated, overpaid D-man (Phaneuf? Wideman? (that was for Moon, I like Wideman and want him to stay)).