Anyone Played Real Money Poker?

[csnarpy]

I play on Full Tilt - strictly tourney's and over the last 3 years have won quite a bit (won't say how much - let's just say, my wife has no problem with me playing a tourney until 3am and then calling in sick for work, lol) but it took time to learn the "online way".

Withdrawing money was easy but there are limits as to how much you can take each day.

To me the key is, once you get on a site you like then stick with it. I found that playing styles actually differ between sites. But like Vlad mentioned earlier, make sure you find a reputable site - just do some google research to make sure your on the right site.

Have fun and don't get addicted!

[jydk]

Originally Posted by csnarpy

I play on Full Tilt - strictly tourney's and over the last 3 years have won quite a bit (won't say how much - let's just say, my wife has no problem with me playing a tourney until 3am and then calling in sick for work, lol) but it took time to learn the "online way".

Withdrawing money was easy but there are limits as to how much you can take each day.

To me the key is, once you get on a site you like then stick with it. I found that playing styles actually differ between sites. But like Vlad mentioned earlier, make sure you find a reputable site - just do some google research to make sure your on the right site.

Have fun and don't get addicted!

Everyone who plays online, or live action casino poker makes money. Everyone! I have met hundreds of people who play poker as a hobby, and have yet to have ever met a single one that has not told me they make money! Nobody looses! It's absolutely incredible that there are people that don't play. It's easy money. Money in the bank. Even with the House taking 5% of EVERY pot in cash games*, and usually 10% of every tournament buy-in, all players who play, make money.

And do you want to know why? Because they only remember, and tell themselves/wife’s/husbands/girlfriends/moms/dads/.... about the particular times that they made money. For example; They play in 10 sit in go tournaments, 10 tournaments cost them $10+1, they win one for $46, maybe place in two others winning $45. So they've bought in for $110, and won back $91. Wife asks them how they did: Up $91 sweetie, calling in sick tomorrow!

I don't mean to pick on you csnarpy, or call you a liar. I understand people do make money, but it's far less then you'd expect. The only one who always makes money is the House. Even if you are slightly better then everyone else, and make better educated decisions, your still paying the House. Rake back programs give you back a bit of that money, but not all of it. People tend to even lie to themselves, to make it seem that they are profitable in their poker ventures. It's a reality that casinos, real or online, have taken advantage of for many years. Poker, blackjack, roulette, whatever, it's the casino that makes the money. The casino!

[return to the red]

Originally Posted by csnarpy

I play on Full Tilt - strictly tourney's and over the last 3 years have won quite a bit (won't say how much - let's just say, my wife has no problem with me playing a tourney until 3am and then calling in sick for work, lol) but it took time to learn the "online way".

what's your Full Tilt sign in name, I wanna check this out

[Regorium]

Originally Posted by jydk

Everyone who plays online, or live action casino poker makes money. Everyone! I have met hundreds of people who play poker as a hobby, and have yet to have ever met a single one that has not told me they make money! Nobody looses! It's absolutely incredible that there are people that don't play. It's easy money. Money in the bank. Even with the House taking 5% of EVERY pot in cash games*, and usually 10% of every tournament buy-in, all players who play, make money.

And do you want to know why? Because they only remember, and tell themselves/wife’s/husbands/girlfriends/moms/dads/.... about the particular times that they made money. For example; They play in 10 sit in go tournaments, 10 tournaments cost them $10+1, they win one for $46, maybe place in two others winning $45. So they've bought in for $110, and won back $91. Wife asks them how they did: Up $91 sweetie, calling in sick tomorrow!

I don't mean to pick on you csnarpy, or call you a liar. I understand people do make money, but it's far less then you'd expect. The only one who always makes money is the House. Even if you are slightly better then everyone else, and make better educated decisions, your still paying the House. Rake back programs give you back a bit of that money, but not all of it. People tend to even lie to themselves, to make it seem that they are profitable in their poker ventures. It's a reality that casinos, real or online, have taken advantage of for many years. Poker, blackjack, roulette, whatever, it's the casino that makes the money. The casino!

I am way down. Probably down about $75, and realizing that I'm a fish, I've stopped playing. I play once in a while just to kill an hour or two, but it's purely for entertainment, and no delusions about making a steady income. Although I don't know how much entertainment is derived from me screaming at the computer as some donk cracks my aces yet again....

However, I do know people that have made LOTS of money (like 5 digits+)from poker. And obviously they know how to take into account rake/buy ins when calculating their ROI/profit. Also, they use computer programs to track their earnings, so it's not like they will convieniently forget a tourney where they lost.

The losers? Well, people like me who don't take it seriously enough to buy software/read books/spend money and time to get better to help play. Then there's the decently rich people that think they're good but aren't, so they keep re-buying. I was watching some $100/$200 no limit, and watched as some person donked off $10,000 in less than 30 minutes.

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I think it's become a lot harder to make money with online poker recently. Especially with all the rules againt it in the States.

There are two many people playing system based on the odds and too many people using bots etc.. The odds of you making money have really decreased substantially. You can still do it, but it will take you much longer to turn a profit and the proftis will be smaller.

[malcolmk14]

Originally Posted by jydk

Everyone who plays online, or live action casino poker makes money. Everyone! I have met hundreds of people who play poker as a hobby, and have yet to have ever met a single one that has not told me they make money! Nobody looses! It's absolutely incredible that there are people that don't play. It's easy money. Money in the bank. Even with the House taking 5% of EVERY pot in cash games*, and usually 10% of every tournament buy-in, all players who play, make money.

And do you want to know why? Because they only remember, and tell themselves/wife’s/husbands/girlfriends/moms/dads/.... about the particular times that they made money. For example; They play in 10 sit in go tournaments, 10 tournaments cost them $10+1, they win one for $46, maybe place in two others winning $45. So they've bought in for $110, and won back $91. Wife asks them how they did: Up $91 sweetie, calling in sick tomorrow!

I don't mean to pick on you csnarpy, or call you a liar. I understand people do make money, but it's far less then you'd expect. The only one who always makes money is the House. Even if you are slightly better then everyone else, and make better educated decisions, your still paying the House. Rake back programs give you back a bit of that money, but not all of it. People tend to even lie to themselves, to make it seem that they are profitable in their poker ventures. It's a reality that casinos, real or online, have taken advantage of for many years. Poker, blackjack, roulette, whatever, it's the casino that makes the money. The casino!

There are people who make real money playing poker.

Then there are people who THINK they make money playing poker.

That second group of people continuing to play are the reason that the first (and much smaller) group can make money.

[puckluck]

I play 15-30 at the Elbow and I make some pretty good cash every month. I started off playing 4-8 and was making 200 dollars a night pretty consistent so I decided I'd make a jump to the 15-30 table and so far I've done really good. I've made about $30,000 in the 2 years I've played.

[T@T]

I typically do pretty well at the casinos.

And I typically lose my arse online. one night in a big tourney I lost with a straight flush(to a bigger one), an Ace high tight (to 4 deuces) and an Ace high flush (to a straight flush). This happened in one tourney!
IMO there are too many huge hands online for it to be real.

At least at the casino I would have picked off a huge "bad beat" pot. Instead I got to put my fist threw my monitor.

[drewboy12]

Originally Posted by T@T

I typically do pretty well at the casinos.

And I typically lose my arse online. one night in a big tourney I lost with a straight flush(to a bigger one), an Ace high tight (to 4 deuces) and an Ace high flush (to a straight flush). This happened in one tourney!
IMO there are too many huge hands online for it to be real.

At least at the casino I would have picked off a huge "bad beat" pot. Instead I got to put my fist threw my monitor.

I agree... In one online session online... $400 buy in, within about 2 hours I hit 4 big beats the would have paid otu at the casino... never played online again

[return to the red]

Originally Posted by T@T

I typically do pretty well at the casinos.

And I typically lose my arse online. one night in a big tourney I lost with a straight flush(to a bigger one), an Ace high tight (to 4 deuces) and an Ace high flush (to a straight flush). This happened in one tourney!
IMO there are too many huge hands online for it to be real.

At least at the casino I would have picked off a huge "bad beat" pot. Instead I got to put my fist threw my monitor.

You have to keep in mind that online you see probably an average of 90-100 hands per hour whereas in live play higher end would be about 30. If you were to sit down for three hours that's 180-210 more hands in one session then you would see if you were playing a live game.

Believe me I think it's sometimes as rigged as you but based on the sheer number of extra hands you play online vs live you are going to encounter more bad beats obviousely

[spydermal]

[csnarpy]

Originally Posted by jydk

Everyone who plays online, or live action casino poker makes money. Everyone! I have met hundreds of people who play poker as a hobby, and have yet to have ever met a single one that has not told me they make money! Nobody looses! It's absolutely incredible that there are people that don't play. It's easy money. Money in the bank. Even with the House taking 5% of EVERY pot in cash games*, and usually 10% of every tournament buy-in, all players who play, make money.

And do you want to know why? Because they only remember, and tell themselves/wife’s/husbands/girlfriends/moms/dads/.... about the particular times that they made money. For example; They play in 10 sit in go tournaments, 10 tournaments cost them $10+1, they win one for $46, maybe place in two others winning $45. So they've bought in for $110, and won back $91. Wife asks them how they did: Up $91 sweetie, calling in sick tomorrow!

I don't mean to pick on you csnarpy, or call you a liar. I understand people do make money, but it's far less then you'd expect. The only one who always makes money is the House. Even if you are slightly better then everyone else, and make better educated decisions, your still paying the House. Rake back programs give you back a bit of that money, but not all of it. People tend to even lie to themselves, to make it seem that they are profitable in their poker ventures. It's a reality that casinos, real or online, have taken advantage of for many years. Poker, blackjack, roulette, whatever, it's the casino that makes the money. The casino!

Thanks for the morality check. I now know the error of my ways.... ya right. Gawd, I never once said everyone makes money or even loses money. All i mentioned (in passing) was that I do well and enjoy playing online.

Oh, I don't stay home for $91. As for lying to myself - I do try but those damn deposits just bring me back to the truth, every time.

So again thanks, but I'm off to my GA meeting now....

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by jydk

Everyone who plays online, or live action casino poker makes money. Everyone! I have met hundreds of people who play poker as a hobby, and have yet to have ever met a single one that has not told me they make money! Nobody looses! It's absolutely incredible that there are people that don't play. It's easy money. Money in the bank. Even with the House taking 5% of EVERY pot in cash games*, and usually 10% of every tournament buy-in, all players who play, make money.

This made me laugh because it's so true. So many of my buddies tried playing poker and not one time did I hear a story of how they lost and only how they won. Pretty obvious they are losing when not one of them plays poker anymore.

[csnarpy]

Originally Posted by puckluck

This made me laugh because it's so true. So many of my buddies tried playing poker and not one time did I hear a story of how they lost and only how they won. Pretty obvious they are losing when not one of them plays poker anymore.

lol, ya i do agree with ya there as a lot of people i know do that as well. I know I've lost my fair share but I've definitely come out ahead over the years.

[3 Justin 3]

I played on Full Tilt, was up $50 in a few hours, and lost it all in like 6 hands. LOL

Haven't been on much since, I should get back on, I think I still have $12 in there!

[HelloHockeyFans]

Originally Posted by spydermal

IMO, in the first hand, you need to be weary with that kind of board going up against the BB. I understand you probably raised heavy PF, but after seeing that board and assuming you didn't shove on the flop, a guy in BB calling all your bets is a good sign your rockets are beat. Just my opinion though.

[malcolmk14]

Originally Posted by spydermal

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I assume you're playing 1/2 judging by the stack sizes.

First hand, nothing you could have done. For a $126 pot in 1/2 you go to war with aces every single time. No big deal there.

Second hand, I would have to see how it progressed to make any judgment on it, and know any table dynamics. But for a ~310 BB pot you can get away from a middle set sometimes. Not often, but sometimes.

[HelloHockeyFans]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

First hand, nothing you could have done. For a $126 pot in 1/2 you go to war with aces every single time. No big deal there.

Hmm... gotta disagree with you there. No shame in folding bullets - especially on a low connecting board like the one in the hand... especially given the fact that you're playing against a blind who might call your raise with anything to see a flop. Bet strong and represent the bullets, but when you're beat, you're beat... AA is only the best hand PF and often drops in ranking once the board shows its ugly head!

[malcolmk14]

Originally Posted by HelloHockeyFans

Hmm... gotta disagree with you there. No shame in folding bullets - especially on a low connecting board like the one in the hand... especially given the fact that you're playing against a blind who might call your raise with anything to see a flop. Bet strong and represent the bullets, but when you're beat, you're beat... AA is only the best hand PF and often drops in ranking once the board shows its ugly head!

The pot is $126 so spydermal's stack was about $65 before the hand started.

Raising to $7 preflop, and betting $11-12 on the 5-7-5 flop, takes the stack down to $46-47 with the pot around $35.

Turn comes a 2 and the BB checks into you, you are pretty much either checking back or committing. You have to get value out of the hands that are chasing (like 4-6 as was the case here) so you aren't checking back. Throw $26 into the pot and the BB calls.

3 hits on the river so 46 has you beat, 5x, 22, 33, 77 have you beat, 68 is running a bluff (a bad one), and you're still ahead of 66 88 99 TT JJ A7. You can't fold for $20.

[Roof-Daddy]

When I first started playing poker online I didn't have a clue what I was doing. I was so green I had to write down the hands and how they rank on a piece of paper, and keep it with me while I played. It still didn't stop me from sitting down at $200 NL tables ($2/$4 Blinds - six handed). What an idiot........needless to say I got my bankroll reduced to $0 in short order. I lost almost $1000 before I decided maybe I should re-think what I was doing lol.

I went out and bought a bunch of poker books and started playing massive amounts of poker at a more reasonable stake, $25 NL ($0.10/0.25 blinds)....and I also started playing alot of tourneys and multi table sitngo's. Took me awhile, but eventually I won back everything I lost and a little more.

I don't play much anymore because I prefer to play tourneys, and that takes alot of time to accomplish. I'm just happy that I'm not in the red anymore.