Four Mounties apparently killed near Mayerthorpe

[Patek23]

Originally posted by Mean Mr. Mustard+Mar 4 2005, 12:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mean Mr. Mustard @ Mar 4 2005, 12:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

It's still 5 dead, whether you look at it as four dead cops and one dead criminal. Because the way your looking at it is as if anyone who kills someone is scum of the earth.

Sorry he is the scum of the earth and I don't consider him a person in the matter. Right now four police officers were murdered. [/b][/quote]
I'm not very fond of police officers, but I don't wish death on nobody that doesn't deserve it. BUT I don't give anybody special emotions if one cop shot four con's I'd feel the same way as if one con shot four cops. Wether you like drug dealers or not for some of them it's a living. The way I see it is it's no different than one person shooting four others. I don't remember anybody calling the Columbine shooters scum, just misguided.

[metallicat]

No, that's bullshi*. This scumbag criminal did not go to work day in, day out for the betterment of society. You calling these deaths the same as a cop shooting a con is an outrage, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

These men gave their lives so that you can live in safety and freedom. Shame on you.

[Resolute 14]

Actually, I know a lot of people who called Klebold and Harris scum.

Any coward who murders others is scum.

[pope04]

Originally posted by Flaming Homer@Mar 4 2005, 01:09 AM
...I don't give anybody special emotions if one cop shot four con's I'd feel the same way as if one con shot four cops.

I certainly see a difference.

Policemen make the world a safer place.

"Cons" make the world less safe.

[pope04]

Originally posted by Flaming Homer@Mar 4 2005, 01:09 AM
Wether you like drug dealers or not for some of them it's a living. I don't remember anybody calling the Columbine shooters scum, just misguided.

Ummmmm, it's an illegal living.

And I, as well as most people in my sphere of influence, feel that the Columbine killers were the scummiest of scum. Let's compromise and call them misguided scumbags.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally posted by Flaming Homer+Mar 3 2005, 06:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Flaming Homer @ Mar 3 2005, 06:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Sorry he is the scum of the earth and I don't consider him a person in the matter. Right now four police officers were murdered.

I'm not very fond of police officers, but I don't wish death on nobody that doesn't deserve it. BUT I don't give anybody special emotions if one cop shot four con's I'd feel the same way as if one con shot four cops. Wether you like drug dealers or not for some of them it's a living. The way I see it is it's no different than one person shooting four others. I don't remember anybody calling the Columbine shooters scum, just misguided. [/b][/quote]
Ok the next time a drug producer who operated a chop shop starts to put their life on the line and is murdered protecting the public I swear I will consider them good people. But this guy murdered four men (I assume they are all men) who were doing their job of protecting every single one of us. For shame that you would compare them to "cons" that is one of the most abhorant statements to ever be put on this message board in my opinion. These men, and most every police officer should be considered a hero, and not compared to a criminal.

[Sylvanfan]

To anyone who even uses marjijuana on a casual basis...reconsider. Sure you may not have purchased your supply from this farm.. But these people were supplier mj for someone to use. The demand for their product came from somewhere. I know a lot of people who take a very lax attitude to just smoking a very small amount for personal use. But today 4 Police officers who were just doing their jobs lost their lives because of a marijuanan grow op. It's far fetched to think that Canadian drug lords would go to such extremes to protect their crops. But obviously they will...this really changes my perspective on things, and to those who still use mj occasionally I urge you to consider todays events and committ to stop using this illegal substance unless it is someday legalized. I don't use the stuff myself, but I do know a few people who do, and I'll be urging anyone I know to change their ways and insinuate that their consumption of the product eventually does end up with someone having an opertation like the farm where these officers lost their lives. My condolances to all police officers accross our country as they have a difficult job and have to perform a lot of nasty tasks, and especially to the families of the officers lost in the line of duty.

[Cowperson]

Originally posted by Sylvanfan@Mar 4 2005, 02:07 AM
To anyone who even uses marjijuana on a casual basis...reconsider. Sure you may not have purchased your supply from this farm.. But these people were supplier mj for someone to use. The demand for their product came from somewhere. I know a lot of people who take a very lax attitude to just smoking a very small amount for personal use. But today 4 Police officers who were just doing their jobs lost their lives because of a marijuanan grow op. It's far fetched to think that Canadian drug lords would go to such extremes to protect their crops. But obviously they will...this really changes my perspective on things, and to those who still use mj occasionally I urge you to consider todays events and committ to stop using this illegal substance unless it is someday legalized. I don't use the stuff myself, but I do know a few people who do, and I'll be urging anyone I know to change their ways and insinuate that their consumption of the product eventually does end up with someone having an opertation like the farm where these officers lost their lives. My condolances to all police officers accross our country as they have a difficult job and have to perform a lot of nasty tasks, and especially to the families of the officers lost in the line of duty.

Eloquently stated.

Cowperson

[KowOfLang]

Originally posted by Sylvanfan@Mar 3 2005, 07:07 PM
To anyone who even uses marjijuana on a casual basis...reconsider. Sure you may not have purchased your supply from this farm.. But these people were supplier mj for someone to use. The demand for their product came from somewhere. I know a lot of people who take a very lax attitude to just smoking a very small amount for personal use. But today 4 Police officers who were just doing their jobs lost their lives because of a marijuanan grow op. It's far fetched to think that Canadian drug lords would go to such extremes to protect their crops. But obviously they will...this really changes my perspective on things, and to those who still use mj occasionally I urge you to consider todays events and committ to stop using this illegal substance unless it is someday legalized. I don't use the stuff myself, but I do know a few people who do, and I'll be urging anyone I know to change their ways and insinuate that their consumption of the product eventually does end up with someone having an opertation like the farm where these officers lost their lives. My condolances to all police officers accross our country as they have a difficult job and have to perform a lot of nasty tasks, and especially to the families of the officers lost in the line of duty.

Or maybe the government should just legalize it and regulate it...

I think you should just concern yourself with your own business...I RARELY smoke it, but I think that telling people to quit because 4 cops were killed is ridiculous.

THAT is far-fetched.

P.S., For a lot of people, illegal economy provides a better standard of life than legal employment could. Whoever killed these cops is SICK, but a lot of pot growers are just chilled out folks...Not evil crime-doers.

Take a trip, read a book...
Look outside of the "Alberta way of life/way of thinking".

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Take a trip? To the best of my knowledge that is against the law and as has been stated it leads to situations like this because at the current time it is illegal. I know that may just be my Alberta blinder on but I try and follow the laws of the land, and that does include not partaking in activities such as smoking marijuana. When you do smoke marijuana you are putting your money towards criminals, there should be no mistaking that fact.

[peter12]

Originally posted by KowOfLang+Mar 3 2005, 09:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (KowOfLang @ Mar 3 2005, 09:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Sylvanfan@Mar 3 2005, 07:07 PM
To anyone who even uses marjijuana on a casual basis...reconsider. Sure you may not have purchased your supply from this farm.. But these people were supplier mj for someone to use. The demand for their product came from somewhere. I know a lot of people who take a very lax attitude to just smoking a very small amount for personal use. But today 4 Police officers who were just doing their jobs lost their lives because of a marijuanan grow op. It's far fetched to think that Canadian drug lords would go to such extremes to protect their crops. But obviously they will...this really changes my perspective on things, and to those who still use mj occasionally I urge you to consider todays events and committ to stop using this illegal substance unless it is someday legalized. I don't use the stuff myself, but I do know a few people who do, and I'll be urging anyone I know to change their ways and insinuate that their consumption of the product eventually does end up with someone having an opertation like the farm where these officers lost their lives. My condolances to all police officers accross our country as they have a difficult job and have to perform a lot of nasty tasks, and especially to the families of the officers lost in the line of duty.

Or maybe the government should just legalize it and regulate it...

I think you should just concern yourself with your own business...I RARELY smoke it, but I think that telling people to quit because 4 cops were killed is ridiculous.

THAT is far-fetched.

P.S., For a lot of people, illegal economy provides a better standard of life than legal employment could. Whoever killed these cops is SICK, but a lot of pot growers are just chilled out folks...Not evil crime-doers.

Take a trip, read a book...
Look outside of the "Alberta way of life/way of thinking". [/b][/quote]
41% of pot growers have a criminal record. This IS NOT a mom and pop operation.

Everytime you buy weed you help these guys buy another high powered assault rifle.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally posted by KowOfLang@Mar 4 2005, 03:13 AM

Or maybe the government should just legalize it and regulate it...

I think you should just concern yourself with your own business...I RARELY smoke it, but I think that telling people to quit because 4 cops were killed is ridiculous.

THAT is far-fetched.

P.S., For a lot of people, illegal economy provides a better standard of life than legal employment could. Whoever killed these cops is SICK, but a lot of pot growers are just chilled out folks...Not evil crime-doers.

Take a trip, read a book...
Look outside of the "Alberta way of life/way of thinking".

Instead of just categorically dismissing Sylvanfan's correlation maybe you could provide the logic that leads you to that conclusion.

You may THINK it's far fetched or tell yourself that it is to further justify your indulgence, but Sylvanfan showed a logical progression that leads to a conclusion. Can you?

P.S. Just because someone can make a better living illegally than they can legally doesn't mean they should does it? Does that justify illegal activity in your mind?

[Sylvanfan]

Originally posted by fotze@Mar 4 2005, 03:32 AM

I think it should be legalized (I don't smoke it btw) but that being said it is currently illegal so the police have to do their job to get rid of these vermin.# There is no excuse whatsoever for the actions.

Yeah, the war of drugs has been fought for years, and lost for the most part. Perhaps it is time to take a serious look at making this a legitimized bussiness and take the big profit end out of it for these grow ops, or at least be able to tax them heavily.

Really when someone sparks one up once a week for home use it looks harmless for the most part, and doesn't seem like a big deal does it? I know before today, I never thought of it that way, at least not in Canada. And really, the cops aren't going to go after that person, that's not who they want. They want to get to the root of the problem, but everytime someone uses this ILLEGAL substance they get it from someone, who either got it from someone else, or grew their own. But in reflection I look back and realize that every time I consumed, or watched someone else consume mj it was creating demand for something illegal. Somewhere this demand has made someone go to these extremes to protect their illegal property, and in my own province none the less. But how many people have suffered like this in other countries in similar stings over the years? Sure it's a bit of an extreme view to take on the issue....But try and explain your point of view to the families of the 4 officers killed in the line of duty today. (Kowoflang that is, not Fotze)

I should add that I do read books, and ironically I just took a trip to Vancouver last week (shocking I know) and that I have been to places like Amsterdam and South America with reputations for either growing or consuming illegal substances by North American standards. But consider this, if no one smoked pot in Canada or the U.S. would these grow ops be able to thrive???

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally posted by Sylvanfan+Mar 4 2005, 04:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sylvanfan @ Mar 4 2005, 04:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-fotze@Mar 4 2005, 03:32 AM

I think it should be legalized (I don't smoke it btw) but that being said it is currently illegal so the police have to do their job to get rid of these vermin.# There is no excuse whatsoever for the actions.

Yeah, the war of drugs has been fought for years, and lost for the most part. Perhaps it is time to take a serious look at making this a legitimized bussiness and take the big profit end out of it for these grow ops, or at least be able to tax them heavily.
[/b][/quote]
Yeah, I agree. Make it legal so that it can be regulated and scum bags can't profit off of it.

[Sammie]

Originally posted by Flaming Homer@Mar 3 2005, 07:09 PM
I'm not very fond of police officers, but I don't wish death on nobody that doesn't deserve it. BUT I don't give anybody special emotions if one cop shot four con's I'd feel the same way as if one con shot four cops. Wether you like drug dealers or not for some of them it's a living. The way I see it is it's no different than one person shooting four others. I don't remember anybody calling the Columbine shooters scum, just misguided.

Then let me be the first to say it . . . the Columbine shooters ARE SCUM!!!!

[Sammie]

Originally posted by KowOfLang@Mar 3 2005, 09:13 PM
Or maybe the government should just legalize it and regulate it...

Oh, what a priceless suggestion!!! Get the government to legalize and regulate it!

I'm sure the government will do just a wonderful job! After all, look at the amazing success this government has had after setting up and regulating the gun registry. In spite of spending up to $2 billion on the program they still couldn't keep this scum from getting his hands on a gun!

With this kind of success, how can anyone doubt their ability to regulate illegal drugs?!!!

[Deelow]

Originally posted by Flaming Homer+Mar 4 2005, 01:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Flaming Homer @ Mar 4 2005, 01:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Sorry he is the scum of the earth and I don't consider him a person in the matter. Right now four police officers were murdered.

I'm not very fond of police officers, but I don't wish death on nobody that doesn't deserve it. BUT I don't give anybody special emotions if one cop shot four con's I'd feel the same way as if one con shot four cops. Wether you like drug dealers or not for some of them it's a living. The way I see it is it's no different than one person shooting four others. I don't remember anybody calling the Columbine shooters scum, just misguided. [/b][/quote]
That's one too many tupac records for you....
BTW not that i'm making light of this but this was a big enough story that it made the American news...they showed the arial video with a graphic that said
"north east of Edmunton".
I"m a good speeler.

[BlackArcher101]

Okay... in the midst of all this...

Did someone else find the way this went down really odd? It didn't seem like a bust at all, but also procedures weren't followed correctly.

I mean really, who sends in 4 rookies to do a raid?

[The Familia]

I hate these grow ops. Nothing but trouble. These are lazy classless fools who don't wanna work and want to make a fast dollar. I get happy every time I see a drug bust...

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally posted by BlackArcher101@Mar 3 2005, 11:31 PM
I mean really, who sends in 4 rookies to do a raid?

I don't know the situation, but it really didn't appear to be a raid at the time, but rather no one thought that anyone would be there. What is worse now is likely you have four mothers and four fathers that are going to have to bury their childern. That is something no parent should ever have to do. How does someone inform someones mother that their son was killed by the fukcing scum of the earth - how do you comfort someone in that situation.

To answer your question though, that was nearly half of their police force. Three out of seven officers have been murdered.