Downs Syndrome child used as homocide bomber

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by FlamesAddiction@Jan 31 2005, 09:35 PM
I don't draw the line strictly between animal and human. I see it more as a line between creatures that have heightened senses of emotion, and those that don't. Many biologist agree that primates and dolphins have emotional capabilites on par with humans.

Thats good and fine. It gets a little bit iffy when starting to rank which animals are allowed to die, and which aren't, based on consciousness. A big monkey deserves to live more than a little monkey? I'm up for far broader of classifications when it comes to who/what's allowed to live and die.

[BaronInEdmonton]

Re: The killing of animal based on rank.

The only real rankings are taste and annoyance (ie// cows and flys)

[peter12]

Originally posted by Agamemnon+Jan 31 2005, 03:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agamemnon @ Jan 31 2005, 03:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-FlamesAddiction@Jan 31 2005, 08:40 PM
I think it's likely that a person with Down's knows the difference between right and wrong, and also knows that suicide bombers are revered in their circles as martyrs.# Also, who knows what kind of suffering he's witnessed because of the war.# Based on that, it is not unlikely that the child had some personal motive for carrying out the act.# It's not right to coherse a child to anything but I see a lot of jumping to conclusions and displays of preconceived notions about handicapped people here.

Along another line, the U.S. has been experimenting using dolphins as living bombs and for survelleince purposes in the Persian Gulf.# Dolphins are also capable of heightened emotion, have little knowledge of geopolitics, and cannot refuse service... but unlike a human - likely does not know the difference between right and wrong.# So is that just as bad (or worse)?

Well, if you think the Down's kid was in on the bombing, that's cool... I'm inclined to think he was coerced, but obviously its a matter of opinoin.

As for Dolphins, I don't know. I do know the Soviets during WWII used dogs as living land mines to take out German tanks. If the militaries of the world want to use and abuse animals, that's the way it is I suppose. I'll generally tend to care more about blown up people than dogs or dolphins, but I guess I'm biased towards humans when it comes to living and dying.

I also don't think I can equate using an unknowing human bomb to using unkowing animals in dangerous jobs. I would assume that 'human rights' are a different topic entirely from 'animal rights'. [/b][/quote]
What's even worse is the "punishment" battalions the Soviets employed to clear minefields. Just send a few thousand political prisoners out into the German minefield to walk around for 15 minutes and no more mines.