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Old 06-03-2008, 09:15 AM   #21
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My take on the beers in question:

Table5: Yes, I would rather have a Coors over a Heineken, as long as it is a Coors Original (why that beer isn't available in Alberta is beyond me)

Sam Adams: I've had a few of the different kinds, I don't love them, I don't hate them

Yuengling: One of my favorite beers of all time. Discovered (Acutally was instructed to find it by a buddy who spent a few summers in Pensylvania) it durring the epic Flames Pittsburgh, Philly, New York road trip of 06 and then found it again down in Florida this year on a Flames roadie. Probably the best American beer I've ever had. A bit darker so it's got some decent flavour, and easy drinking like nobody's business. Damn, now I want some Yuengling.
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:18 AM   #22
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I never said I would turn down a free one. I just hate when someone says "I'll bring over some fancy or exotic beer" and then they pull Heineken out and your saitting their saying WDF? Heineken is to exotic beer Tiki-Ming is to exotic food. If you are gonna get drinkin' beer, save your money and get Kokanee or something like that. That should be kokanee's slogan, "Just as schitty as Heniken and a fraction of the cost."
well yeah, anyone who equates Heineken to being fancy is out of touch with reality. it would be like thinking a VW is a fancy european exotic.

...and im pretty sure i WOULD turn down a kokanee. That stuff is just not worth the mouth-pain...free or not.
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:23 AM   #23
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...and im pretty sure i WOULD turn down a kokanee. That stuff is just not worth the mouth-pain...free or not.
Agreed oh man how people subject themselves to that stuff is beyond be

I don’t just wish the Ranger would die, I wish the entire brewery would just go away
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:58 AM   #24
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Table5: Yes, I would rather have a Coors over a Heineken, as long as it is a Coors Original (why that beer isn't available in Alberta is beyond me)
At least we get Coors light, the ######ed step brother of Coors. Gross.
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:59 AM   #25
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Agreed oh man how people subject themselves to that stuff is beyond be

I don’t just wish the Ranger would die, I wish the entire brewery would just go away
I would rather drink Kokanee than Canadian. I would probably drink Smirnoff Ice before I drank Canadian.

What do I know, I drink Pilsner on a pretty regular basis.
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:42 AM   #26
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Beer is such an objective thing... most are an acquired taste, and often one can lose that taste.

I used to love Stella Artois... but I hadn't drank one in a long time. I had one on the weekend and it was not very good anymore. There was nothing wrong with the beer, I just lost my taste for it. I'm sure with some effort, I'd like it again.

However, I tried Samuel Adams Honey Porter in the States as well as about 6 other US exclusive brews, and it was hands down the lousiest. It was like a mix of Rickards Red, Rickards Honey Brown and a bad Stout. Just awful. It was painful for us to finish the 6-pack. It was definitely not a good decision.

The others I tried were Miller Chill, Budweiser Select, Michelob Amber Bock, Michelob Ultra, Coors Original and Miller High Life. All of those were passable to excellent beers.
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:51 AM   #27
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I would rather drink Kokanee than Canadian. I would probably drink Smirnoff Ice before I drank Canadian.

What do I know, I drink Pilsner on a pretty regular basis.
They are both awful and Pilsner is a worse version of Canadian
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:40 AM   #28
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Just have a glass of toilet water, pretty similar.
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:20 PM   #29
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I would check with the Willow Park liquor store. Even if they don't stock it; if it's available they can get it in for you.
I'll second that. That place has everything under the sun.


I've tried Samuel Adams once, it tasted like someone bottled a monkey. A monkey past its prime.
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:34 PM   #30
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I had Sam Adam's in the States as well, there's alot better beers down there than that. Personally when I'm in the States I stick with either MGD or Michelob.
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:42 PM   #31
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As far as U.S. domestics, Coors Original is the one for me. Sam Adams is drinkable, one of those that seems to be better from the tap. The Sam Adams light is actually better than the regular Boston Lager. They do have some other brews that arent too bad. I like the Oktoberfest.

Of course if you get down into the Northwest, you can find a lot of good microbrews. If I am planning an all day drunk, Miller Lite is the water of choice.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:03 PM   #32
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I liked the Boston Lager, but I sure want to try Utopias! If only I had the money for it!



http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/am...ultimate.beer/

For $100 a bottle, it must be good, right?
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:15 PM   #33
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I liked the Boston Lager, but I sure want to try Utopia! If only I had the money for it!



http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/am...ultimate.beer/

For $100 a bottle, it must be good, right?
I've been looking for that around here for some time! Room temp. beer has never really been my thing, but who knows?
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Old 06-03-2008, 05:23 PM   #34
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The only place it should be is in the garbage.
It's actually almost as bad as "Maca Bavaria" (Best of Brazil my ass!)
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Old 06-03-2008, 08:32 PM   #35
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I'm with the majority here ... Sam Adams is toilet water. The only American beers I've tried that I thought were okay are Henry Weinhard's, Coors (the stuff you get in the US, not here) and MGD, in that order of preference.
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:15 PM   #36
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The only time Ive ever enjoyed the taste of Heineken was IN the Heineken brewery tour.
I agree with what's been said about Heineken. Any time I've had it in Calgary, it was pretty skunky, but in Amsterdam, it was pretty damn good (which might be because of my state of mind in Amsterdam).
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those were good times. apparently however they don't have unlimited beer at the end of the tour anymore...which sort of renders the tour useless.
It's not unlimited, but it isn't hard to get as much as you want. They give out little plastic tokens, and a lot of people don't use theirs, so you just have to sweet-talk those people, and you can still get as much as you want.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:25 PM   #37
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Two threads about booze in one day? The gods smile upon me.

Along with almost everyone here I must agree Sam Adams is no better than tepid pond water. Decent American beer? You're better off getting something like Alaska, Trippel, 90 Shilling or Sierra Nevada.

As for Heineken, their insistence on using green glass in their bottles is the issue. The colour lets more light in, and that changes the flavour the beer during shipment much more than your standard brown bottle, which keeps most all light out. Almost all green bottle beers are hit and miss ie: St. Pauli Girl. I've had good luck with the Heineken keg cans, never got a skunked one and they don't have that canned beer taste.

Edit: Leave all that stuff alone anyways, gets some Smithwicks, Murphys or Boddington and enjoy.

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Two threads about booze in one day? The gods smile upon me.

Along with almost everyone here I must agree Sam Adams is no better than tepid pond water. Decent American beer? You're better off getting something like Alaska, Trippel, 90 Shilling or Sierra Nevada.

As for Heineken, their insistence on using green glass in their bottles is the issue. The colour lets more light in, and that changes the flavour the beer during shipment much more than your standard brown bottle, which keeps most all light out. Almost all green bottle beers are hit and miss ie: St. Pauli Girl. I've had good luck with the Heineken keg cans, never got a skunked one and they don't have that canned beer taste.

Edit: Leave all that stuff alone anyways, gets some Smithwicks, Murphys or Boddington and enjoy.
Smithwicks is a great beer, definitley my new favourite irish beer
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Old 06-04-2008, 01:28 AM   #39
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What's wrong with Kokanee? beer snobs, all of you!! The thing with kokanee is you can't judge based on the first 3 or 4, you have to start judging it after 6.
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What's wrong with Kokanee? beer snobs, all of you!! The thing with kokanee is you can't judge based on the first 3 or 4, you have to start judging it after 6.
Good point. If I want to just have a couple of beers for pleasure, I would never choose Kokanee. But if I intend to swill a bunch, then Kokanee is okay, although I'd rather pound back a bunch of Keith's IPA. Kokanee is a good beer to inhale in about two gulps after cutting the grass on a hot day, as long as it's really well chilled. It's suitable for mixing with Clamatoe juice as well. All in all it's a rather industrial beer, but it is my choice from among the industrial beers (Canadian, Pil, Blue, etc.). It's over-rated however and is still riding on its reputation from the 1980s when it was still owned by Creston Breweries ... it was a good beer then.

Kokanee will always have a special place in my heart though because of the beer strikes we had to endure during the '80s. The under 40 crowd won't remember them, but there was like three beer strikes in 4 years in the early to mid 1980s, all during the summer of course. My roommate and I used to drive to Field, BC, and stock up with about 20 dozen cases of Kokanee every few weeks ... it saved our lives. The alternative was to drink really bad American swill, or Uncle Ben's. Uncle Ben's was an independent brewery in Red Deer at the time and not unionized, so they operated throughout the strikes, suppling the bars with the worst draft beer I've ever tasted. The stuff was so foul it didn't even have fizz ... you had to add salt to get a head out of it. And the next day your head would pound like a drum and you'd be peeing out your arse. Kokanee was a real lifesaver during those strikes.

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