02-07-2008, 02:38 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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He could go sit in a corner with his Traditional Ale and stare at the wall, hey if he enjoyed it.. what do I care?
I'm still not sure why some people crap on things that other people find enjoyment in, it doesn't affect you at all.
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02-07-2008, 02:47 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: YSJ (1979-2002) -> YYC (2002-2022) -> YVR (2022-present)
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When the total time spent playing a simulation could have been spent becoming an accomplished player for real, there is a problem.
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That's a really stupid thing to say.
Learning to play real guitar takes hundreds -- if not thousands -- of hours of practice while it takes nowhere near that long to master Guitar Hero and 5-star Freebird on Expert.
Additionally, the financial cost of playing Guitar Hero is about $100 (assuming you already bought the console itself to play other games). Buying a guitar and amp, even a relatively cheap combo, will easily run you $500 or more, and if you get serious about it, you can end up spending several thousands of dollars on your instrument (I should know -- I dropped $2500 on a Les Paul last year, and it wasn't even close to being the most expensive axe in the store). And then there's the price of lessons; most decent guitar teachers will charge you $25-50 per week, which can really add up over time.
Finally, Guitar Hero can develop skills that translate to learning how to play a real guitar, if one is so inclined. For example, it will quickly develop the strength of your fretting fingers (pinky especially, which is the weakest for most people) and will also teach rythm and strumming technique.
I'm a licensed pilot, but I've spent way more time playing Microsoft Flight Simulator than I have flying real planes. Was that a waste of my time as well? Would it have been a better use of my time if I had just gone to the flying club and rented a Cessna for $125/hour instead?
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02-07-2008, 02:49 PM
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Director of the HFBI
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Calgary
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I personally have nothing against GH, or RB, and I would enjoy playing them. I just thought this was really cool. GH makes you want to play guitar, and this will actually teach you how.
Now they just have to build the same gameplay as found in GH, and it would be just as much fun I think.
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02-07-2008, 02:52 PM
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#24
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Lifetime Suspension
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Yeah I don't think any backlash to GH/Video game haters is pointed at you arsenal, it's a good thread and that game looks pretty interesting.
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02-07-2008, 03:54 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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As a 12-years experience bassist, I think GH works more towards a bassists mentality, what with the mostly singular fretting on an oversized fretboard.
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02-07-2008, 04:11 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Vancouver
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Why does every thread on this topic get hijacked by some righteous, my-crap-smells-better-than-yours-because-I-play-REAL-guitar killjoy? Thanks for telling us how to be more ambitious and how we should spend our time...MOM!
Anyways, this program looks very interesting. However, I've never played guitar before and was always more interested in acoustic than electric. I've heard if you learn on electric, you won't be "tough" enough to try acoustic.
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02-07-2008, 04:30 PM
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#27
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by arsenal
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I think thats pretty cool, but i would rather just learn the song, and than play it with a jam band. There is no improvisation in this game!
And when im playing guitar i am always about improvisation.
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02-07-2008, 05:06 PM
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#28
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
I just find it lame that there are actually competitions for Rock Band and Guitar hero.
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But that's really no different than the competitions they have for, lets say, NHL 08, or Halo 3. The winners of these don't truly believe they are NHL All-Stars, or futuristic killing machines. The Guitar Hero competitions aren't any different...
...unless the winner walks away expecting a record deal. Then I would agree, that's lame.
Last edited by The Fonz; 02-07-2008 at 05:08 PM.
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02-07-2008, 05:13 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Clinching Party
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Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale
Spending countless hours doing something that one could be doing in reality is simply wrong and selfish.
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Selfish? What exactly is selfish about sitting around with your friends drinking beer and clacking a few buttons in time to "Slow Ride"?
What exactly is self-less or giving about learning how to play that song on a real guitar?
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02-07-2008, 05:24 PM
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#30
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Disenfranchised
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
What exactly is self-less or giving about learning how to play that song on a real guitar?
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Because, Rouge, if you actually learn REAL Guitar you're able to share beautiful talent with the rest of the world man, now only if you could get a scout from a label to come check you out, you'd have your break, oh no wait man, that'd be selling out and being selfish. Dude. Selling out is selfish too. Know what I mean, bro?
By the way, back to GH .. I played enough last night to get "The Claw". When does it go away?
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02-07-2008, 05:55 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Antithesis
By the way, back to GH .. I played enough last night to get "The Claw". When does it go away?
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There are more shameful ways to get the claw. Just ask Ray McKigney, hand model.
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02-07-2008, 08:48 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale
When the total time spent playing a simulation could have been spent becoming an accomplished player for real, there is a problem.
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Dammit with all the time i've spent playing civ 1-4 i could be a real general by now!!!
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02-07-2008, 09:39 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I dont get why GH is so loved, Ill admit I play real guitar and kinda laugh when I here "ya I can play that on guitar hero" but seriously I dont find it fun.
Ive played maybe 2 songs and I just cant get into it.
atleast its worth a laugh hearing people talk about how there so pro at pressing 5 buttons and flicking a lil flicker thing
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02-08-2008, 12:31 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Dope-AS-Fack
I dont get why GH is so loved, Ill admit I play real guitar and kinda laugh when I here "ya I can play that on guitar hero" but seriously I dont find it fun.
Ive played maybe 2 songs and I just cant get into it.
atleast its worth a laugh hearing people talk about how there so pro at pressing 5 buttons and flicking a lil flicker thing
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Wow, you're a straight up gangster..
You don't actually take anyone seriously when they say they can play anything on Guitar Hero as if it's a real instrument do you??
Maybe it's tool's like the guy you know giving us regular gamers a bad name.. I don't think I can play anything when I play a song, but I enjoy playing to the rythym of songs, which is all you're really doing, and it can be a pretty good challenge.
I don't think I can walk away from Guitar Hero and play the actual song on a Guitar..
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02-08-2008, 02:43 AM
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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I play guitar hero with a pick, that's the only way I can pick fast enough on that damn plasticky piece of soap thing they call a strum bar.
It's pretty fun but only with friends as a party game, the problem is the songs are a little too long. Playing it by yourself is somewhat depressing as I agree with traditional, you could be better spending your time honing genuine skills.
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02-08-2008, 07:57 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Section 222
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Originally Posted by Dope-AS-Fack
I dont get why GH is so loved, Ill admit I play real guitar and kinda laugh when I here "ya I can play that on guitar hero" but seriously I dont find it fun.
Ive played maybe 2 songs and I just cant get into it.
atleast its worth a laugh hearing people talk about how there so pro at pressing 5 buttons and flicking a lil flicker thing
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Pffft... you've obviously never mastered whammying on the whammie bar thingy. Tourist.
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02-08-2008, 10:36 AM
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Dances with Wolves
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Section 304
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The concept of video games for some reason seems to fly right over a lot of peoples heads. Why play guitar hero when you could spend thousands of dollars and countless hours learning to play guitar to the point that you sell out Madison Square Garden? Why read a John Grisham novel when you could go to school for 10 years, become a lawyer and have your own adventures?
It's entertainment . . . nothing more. I get 45 minutes of time to myself in the evenings where I don't have to worry about work or my family. I want to sit down and simply be entertained. I don't have the time nor the desire to sit down and practice the guitar to the point that I can pound out Metallica whenever I want.
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02-10-2008, 05:06 PM
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#38
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by SarichFan
Wow, you're a straight up gangster..
You don't actually take anyone seriously when they say they can play anything on Guitar Hero as if it's a real instrument do you??
Maybe it's tool's like the guy you know giving us regular gamers a bad name.. I don't think I can play anything when I play a song, but I enjoy playing to the rythym of songs, which is all you're really doing, and it can be a pretty good challenge.
I don't think I can walk away from Guitar Hero and play the actual song on a Guitar..
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O sorry, i dont relize this touched your heart so much
Its a game that I dont find fun
Only thing im trying to say
"Maybe it's tool's like the guy you know giving us regular gamers a bad name."
Sorry if I gave you a bad name, I dint know "gamers" where getting hated on
Take a pill and go play with your little fake guitar
Maybe youll feel better
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02-10-2008, 05:20 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Rhetts_the_Best
And when im playing guitar i am always about improvisation.
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Fun thats what i call it whenever i screw up.
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