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Originally Posted by KevanGuy
I'm surprised to see how many feel the Pens got the best of this one. In my opinion the Ducks won this one handily.
Lehtonen is a question mark right now and I wouldnt want to risk him as my starter. He plays in a far away land for a crap team. He would have to do something pretty damn special to ever get a higher rating than he has now. We see a ton of Lou here and it is defiantly in the very top echelon in the NHL. Just because he wasnt doing great for the Pens doesn't really mean a whole lot, there are more factors at play in the sim that affect a goalies performance. Ducks easily win this part of the deal.
As for the forwards, Mike Cammalleri I think will get 100 points in the NHL and if he does being rated in the 80's next season isnt out of the question at all. In the CPHL hes a hell of a lot cheaper than Thornton this season and probably the next 3 seasons. So yeah, the Ducks probably give up so offense this season but with an 84 OV goalie you can easily compensate for that.
As for the rest of the deal I think Hannan is probably over rated in the CPHL this year. If he doesnt turn things around in Colorado I wouldnt be surprised if he drops down to a more average rating. Rivet is an alright stop-gap this season for the Ducks and I think they are probably deep enough in D not too suffer too much without him. PLus Rivet is starting out with 7 points in 9 games for the Sharks. If he stays steady all year his DF/SC ratings may improve. And Rivet is signed two years, Hannan just one.
With Pardy/Franson well, Franson looks like he could be good but who knows at this point. Pardy though did do well at camp and could see some NHL time this year, that will help him get a playable rerate when the time comes.
So, to summarize, the upgrade in goal far outweighs the 2007/2008 forward hit the Ducks are taking. The D hit for the Ducks this year doesnt even things up in my mind, they still come out on top.
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While I am not going to say that I won this deal. I don't think the Ducks did either, I think it is a pretty even deal and both teams come away with what they needed.
There is no doubt that Luongo is the best goalie in the league given age and salary right now, but he just was not performing for me and if I needed to improve the product on the ice to get my GAA down then so be it. Lehtonen is far from a question mark, he has had some injury problems, but when healthy he is one of the best goalies in the game. He is coming off playing 68 games on an all offense, no defense NHL team and still posting a 2.79gaa and more importantly a .912 save %. This is pretty solid especially seeing the kid is still only 23 years old. I agree hands down the Ducks win this part of the deal and add the hardest thing to get in the CPHL an elite goalie, however I feel that we have picked up a pretty solid guy as well.
Up front there is no doubt that Cammy is gonna be a star. I would not be shocked one bit if he won the Rocket this season. However this is all based on potential and stranger things have happened to players before, but personally I do think Cammy will be a great offensive player with huge point totals. But Joe Thornton speaks for himself. He is the best playmaker in the NHL and one of the top players in the game period. His 188 assists in two years and a +55 over that time shows just how complete a player Thornton has become. As good as I think Cammy is I just can't see him being mentioned on the same level as Joe.
On the blueline Scott Hannan might be off to a slow start but he is also leading the Av's in ice time and out there in all the important situations, he is a top defensive dman and he will be a huge part of any success the Av's have. Craig Rivet is an underrated dman himself. He puts up big minutes in San Jose and has added a veteran calming presence on that young blueline. No doubt that Hannan is an upgrade over Rivet, but I think Rivet is a solid defenseman as well.
Franson/Pardy who knows at this point how this will turn out. Pardy has develop quite a bit over the past year or so, but Fransons ceiling seems to be higher, but they are prospects so who knows.
All in All I think that both teams really got what they were looking for here and that the trade will balance out pretty equally over time.
