Really the last word on the election

[calf]

Originally posted by wittynickname@Nov 4 2004, 09:30 PM
I like this one even more....

So do I...much more creative...and witty, like your nickname

[kipperfan]

Originally posted by Five-hole@Nov 4 2004, 08:58 AM

you might wanna include alberta on your great little map there buddy, this province has a very large christian contingent, esspecially in the outlying rural areas.

We here in alberta, should be republican too, Kerry was no good for Canada, and even worse for alberta. Did I like him better than Bush, yeah, but his polices on foriegn outsourcing and other things would kill huge amounts of industry up here, not to mention the rise in prescription drup prices, with the sudden inflex he would have created on our market.

That map may have been a joke.............but it's a morons joke.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally posted by kipperfan@Nov 5 2004, 03:46 AM
you might wanna include alberta on your great little map there buddy, this province has a very large christian contingent, esspecially in the outlying rural areas.

If being Christian is all that matters, then include Quebec too. They have the highest church-going population in Canada.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally posted by FlamesAddiction+Nov 5 2004, 03:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (FlamesAddiction @ Nov 5 2004, 03:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kipperfan@Nov 5 2004, 03:46 AM
you might wanna include alberta on your great little map there buddy, this province has a very large christian contingent, esspecially in the outlying rural areas.

If being Christian is all that matters, then include Quebec too. They have the highest church-going population in Canada. [/b][/quote]
Totally off topic and non-combative here so bare with me for straying from normality........ :P

Doesn't Quebec have a very large Jewish population as well?

[kipperfan]

Originally posted by FlamesAddiction+Nov 5 2004, 03:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (FlamesAddiction @ Nov 5 2004, 03:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kipperfan@Nov 5 2004, 03:46 AM
you might wanna include alberta on your great little map there buddy, this province has a very large christian contingent, esspecially in the outlying rural areas.

If being Christian is all that matters, then include Quebec too. They have the highest church-going population in Canada. [/b][/quote]
it isnt all that matters actually. Ideals matter. and like it or not, many Albertans can closer identify with american ideals than the ideals of those from ontario or quebec, i know i feel this way, and ive talked to numerous other small c albertans that fell the same.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally posted by Displaced Flames fan+Nov 5 2004, 03:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Displaced Flames fan @ Nov 5 2004, 03:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

If being Christian is all that matters, then include Quebec too. They have the highest church-going population in Canada.

Totally off topic and non-combative here so bare with me for straying from normality........ :P

Doesn't Quebec have a very large Jewish population as well? [/b][/quote]
Actually yes. Well, Montreal does anyway. My step dad was Jewish and from Montreal as a matter of fact.

[Prototype]

Originally posted by Displaced Flames fan@Nov 5 2004, 03:32 AM
I'm saying there is no truth to the popular belief on this site that this country is full of fanatical Christians. Full to the point that they dominate society.

Dis, for what it's worth... I thought it was a joke due to Bush being very, very, very Christian, and the stories Democrats wanting to move to Canada after the last election.

It's a shame that you are taking this as if everyone has a percieved stereotype, but its something that you, as a former Canadian, should understand that us in the "Great White North" live with too. Especially from those who live in the green of that picture.

All I'm saying is that no matter what, stereotypes live in all countries. I don't percieve that everyone in Texas thumps a bible from time to time, but there are those that thump it a little too much that make it hard for the stereotype to die.

Then again, I am uninformed of all the states, and their composure when it comes to things like that due to the fact that I am too busy living my own life to care about stereotypes like that.

I wouldn't take it so seriously.

[badnarik]

county by county if you prefer:

[Five-hole]

Originally posted by kipperfan@Nov 4 2004, 08:46 PM
That map may have been a joke.............but it's a morons joke.

I didn't realize I'd wandered into humorless stick-in-the-mud territory.

When you start to pick apart a joke like that that most people enjoyed, maybe you should ask yourself if you're taking yourself too seriously.

[Displaced Flames fan]

For those of you that are curious exactly where I live, I'm in the only grey county in Kansas.....assuming you all know which state is Kansas of course.

[FlamesAddiction]

South of Nebraska and north of Oklahoma.

What's the gray mean anyway?

[Flame On]

Originally posted by kipperfan+Nov 4 2004, 08:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kipperfan @ Nov 4 2004, 08:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

If being Christian is all that matters, then include Quebec too. They have the highest church-going population in Canada.

it isnt all that matters actually. Ideals matter. and like it or not, many Albertans can closer identify with american ideals than the ideals of those from ontario or quebec, i know i feel this way, and ive talked to numerous other small c albertans that fell the same. [/b][/quote]
Please don't tell me what "matters" I'll decide that for myself. "Ideals" do matter to me however. Ideals such as freedom from church over state, reducing crime by banning most types of guns, religious freedom etc. etc. Oh and not invading and all that good stuff.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Originally posted by Displaced Flames fan+Nov 4 2004, 09:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Displaced Flames fan @ Nov 4 2004, 09:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

If being Christian is all that matters, then include Quebec too. They have the highest church-going population in Canada.

Totally off topic and non-combative here so bare with me for straying from normality........ :P

Doesn't Quebec have a very large Jewish population as well? [/b][/quote]
Quebec Govt Stats Page

A big Jewish population yes, but "very large" no. Catholicism still rules the roost, going back to the days of New France....

Besides, although Catholics consider themselves to be Christian, Christians don't consider Catholics to be Christian. Yeah, I don't get it either, that's why I don't subscribe to either.

Also just to be fair it's the hardcore conservative evangelical christian crowd that has people running for cover, not your moderates. I respect your right to religion, just don't force it upon me.

Best quote from another forum: "would you atleast agree that if a church has a "compound" they are probably bat-sh** crazy?"

[arsenal]

Originally posted by Flame On@Nov 5 2004, 10:09 AM
reducing crime by banning most types of guns

I agree with some of what you said, but I completely disagree with this. You forget that most criminals are criminals for a reason. Banning a firearm for use by an educated law abiding citizen, will not keep said firearm from the hands of a criminal. If you want a firearm, you will get a firearm. Which is why things like the gun registry are dumb. No one is going to register an illegal gun, which is the point of the gun registry.

Also, there are lots of other weapons available. If you do happen to get rid of all gun, you would see a sharp increase is crimes commited using knives, or bats or what other weapon seems to be available.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally posted by I-Hate-Hulse@Nov 5 2004, 04:56 PM
Besides, although Catholics consider themselves to be Christian, Christians don't consider Catholics to be Christian.# Yeah, I don't get it either, that's why I don't subscribe to either.

Also just to be fair it's the hardcore conservative evangelical christian crowd that has people running for cover, not your moderates.# I respect your right to religion, just don't force it upon me.

Hmmm, I was raised Catholic and never heard that other Christians don't consider Catholics as Christians. Since "Christian" only means "followers of Christ", I don't see how they can deny it. The problem many non-Catholics have with Catholicism is the idea of the "Trinity", and the veneration of the Virgin Mary. Some people who do not understand the concepts feel that Catholicism in not monotheist.

I agree with the second part though. Catholics are often unfairly painted as hardcore fanatics which really isn't the case. They take their religion seriously, but are not nearly as confrontational or militant as some protestant groups; like Puritans and Southern Baptists who make up much of the conservative Christian crowd.

[Heaton]

Canada, leading the world in just being north of the United States!

[calf]

Originally posted by Heaton@Nov 5 2004, 11:15 AM
Canada, leading the world in just being north of the United States!

:huhsign:
Where'd that come from?

[Flame On]

Originally posted by Heaton@Nov 5 2004, 10:15 AM
Canada, leading the world in just being north of the United States!

USA leading the world in going to hell in a handbasket. Screw you.

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by FlamesAddiction+Nov 5 2004, 05:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (FlamesAddiction @ Nov 5 2004, 05:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-I-Hate-Hulse@Nov 5 2004, 04:56 PM
Besides, although Catholics consider themselves to be Christian, Christians don't consider Catholics to be Christian.# Yeah, I don't get it either, that's why I don't subscribe to either.

Also just to be fair it's the hardcore conservative evangelical christian crowd that has people running for cover, not your moderates.# I respect your right to religion, just don't force it upon me.

Hmmm, I was raised Catholic and never heard that other Christians don't consider Catholics as Christians. Since "Christian" only means "followers of Christ", I don't see how they can deny it. The problem many non-Catholics have with Catholicism is the idea of the "Trinity", and the veneration of the Virgin Mary. Some people who do not understand the concepts feel that Catholicism in not monotheist.

I agree with the second part though. Catholics are often unfairly painted as hardcore fanatics which really isn't the case. They take their religion seriously, but are not nearly as confrontational or militant as some protestant groups; like Puritans and Southern Baptists who make up much of the conservative Christian crowd. [/b][/quote]
I recently found out dating a pretty fundamental protestant chick that my Catholicism meant I was going to hell (despite the fact that I'm far from a believer). Apparently a lot of us living in the backwoods corner of the world (Alberta... Canada) forget about some pretty deep historical divides between Protestants and Catholics. Even Kennedy was called a Papist and people believed he would take orders from the Pope.

Catholic is a dirty word to a whole lot of other Christian denominations. Not too surprising they wouldn't consider 'us' true-Christians.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Originally posted by FlamesAddiction@Nov 5 2004, 11:04 AM
Hmmm, I was raised Catholic and never heard that other Christians don't consider Catholics as Christians. Since "Christian" only means "followers of Christ", I don't see how they can deny it. The problem many non-Catholics have with Catholicism is the idea of the "Trinity", and the veneration of the Virgin Mary. Some people who do not understand the concepts feel that Catholicism in not monotheist.

Like Agamenon brings up it depends on who you ask. I was in Toronto on business the same time "World Youth Day" hit and the place was literally crawling with Catholics everywhere. Lots of self discussion on them being Christians..

On the flip side, I asked my evangelical Christian friends (I'd rank them a good 8.0 on the church-o-meter) if they considered Catholics to be Christian. Might as well of asked if Gretzky played for the Flames. "They just CAN'T be" was their reply... I think the belief in the Pope was worked in somehow as to the reason.... Like I said, I don't understand the reasons, but that's the way it is....

Although you bring up a good question.... if they're all followers of Christ (they being Baptists, Protestants, Catholics, Episcopalians, Republicans, Anglicans, Unitarians, Orthodox, etc etc) why the great divides between them all?

(As a side note, the Polish Contingent brought their hottest girls out for World Youth Day. Although I thought it was surefire bad Karma to hit on them though.... )