Chinese Democracy to finally come out?

[Daradon]

Not bad, but definitely not worth a 10 year wait, lol.

And I agree, it's not GnR without Slash.

I'm surprised though, I thought I'd hate it.

It's not terrible. Some decent guitar in there.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by troutman

http://www.spin.com/reviews/guns-n-r...acy-interscope

It's been a long time since Guns N' Roses have released an album of new material. Everybody knows this, but it's a fact that bears repeating. If you purchased a kitten on the day that Use Your Illusion I & II arrived in stores, it's probably dead by now. As a consequence, there has been a great deal of pressure on Axl Rose to deliver a record that would validate a 15-year, $13 million wait. There is really only one way for Chinese Democracy to avoid utter and absolute failure: It needs to be the greatest rock album ever made.

Chinese Democracy is not the greatest rock album ever made.

for those too lazy to click your link

[Editor's note, Oct. 22, 2008: This review appeared in our April 2006 issue as an April Fools joke. Now, 'Chinese Democracy,' Guns N' Roses' decade-in-the-making opus, is finally here.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by looooob

for those too lazy to click your link

[Editor's note, Oct. 22, 2008: This review appeared in our April 2006 issue as an April Fools joke. Now, 'Chinese Democracy,' Guns N' Roses' decade-in-the-making opus, is finally here.

LOL. I wonder how different the real review will be?

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by stang

I wont believe it until I see it on the shelves....

And its not even GnR without Slash.... so meh

I consider them "Axl Rose & Friends".

[looooob]

Originally Posted by troutman

LOL. I wonder how different the real review will be?

probably not much...there is a review for the new single there, and its quite funny (and real)

[stang]

Sure, there's some suitably Slashy wankery from, oh, I don't know, Bumblefook, the guy who plays with a honey-coated beehive on his head, or whichever other guitarist is currently under contract, but it's a bit confounding that the first (official, legal) taste of the Most Anticipated Album, Like, Ever -- and from the human who wrote "Paradise City," no less -- is utterly and completely hook-free. I've listened to it 12 times in one sitting and cannot hum a bar.

Hahaha

http://www.spin.com/blog/first-liste...ingle-reviewed

[troutman]

Once that weird shock wears off, there's the small matter of, you know, whether or not it's any good. Which is to say: Is it as bad as we all assume it's gonna be?

Answer: Kinda, but then again, not really!

[jammies]

I expect to see Axl and the boys on CBC filling dead air during the NHL playoffs, at which time anyone under the age of 35 will be saying the same things they said when Def Leppard was playing earlier this month:

"Who are these geezers and why do they suck so hard?"

[ernie]

Originally Posted by jammies

I expect to see Axl and the boys on CBC filling dead air during the NHL playoffs, at which time anyone under the age of 35 will be saying the same things they said when Def Leppard was playing earlier this month:

"Who are these geezers and why do they suck so hard?"

I wouldn't count on it. They played a relatively successful tour last year without even having the album out. Axl Rose will always draw crowds if only to see if he'll show up. I'd be shocked if this album doesn't sell well because if the remaining songs stand up to the ones leaked this summer it will have some excellent songs on it and no truly bad ones.

I also can't help but think it is more than a mere coincidence that the album is being released only a matter of months after Velvet Revolver has at least temporarily fallen apart (i.e. Weiland the main lyricist was fired).

And if by some miracle hatchets can be buried you'd have one hell of a reunion tour.

[Azure]

It could be the worst album ever made.

Ouch.

[Coach]

I must say that as a Guns and Roses fan, and someone who is quite open to things like this usually. (Band reformations, movie remakes etc...) That whatever that song is called.....it blows....straight up

[blankall]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I must say that as a Guns and Roses fan, and someone who is quite open to things like this usually. (Band reformations, movie remakes etc...) That whatever that song is called.....it blows....straight up

I seriously doubt that song ever gets released like that. I think the problem with the album is not Axl's work ethic, but the fact he is too much of a diva and sees himself as some misunderstood genious.

From what I've heard the album is constantly being reworked to give it a modern feel. The problem is by the time he almost gets it ready for release, it sounds dated and he has to start all over again.

Guns and Roses did do a track for the End of Days soundtrack called "Oh my God." wasn't bad for when it came out.

[troutman]

Duff tells a stripper story:

http://channelbee.com/move/programmes/stories#730

[ernie]

Rolling Stone review is out. 4/5 from them

http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/...nese_democracy

Let's get right to it: The first Guns n' Roses album of new, original songs since the first Bush administration is a great, audacious, unhinged and uncompromising hard-rock record. In other words, it sounds a lot like the Guns n' Roses you know. At times, it's the clenched-fist five that made 1987's perfect storm, Appetite for Destruction; more often, it's the one sprawled across the maxed-out CDs of 1991's Use Your Illusion I and II, but here compressed into a convulsive single disc of supershred guitars, orchestral fanfares, hip-hop electronics, metallic tabernacle choirs and Axl Rose's still-virile, rusted-siren singing.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by looooob

for those too lazy to click your link

[Editor's note, Oct. 22, 2008: This review appeared in our April 2006 issue as an April Fools joke. Now, 'Chinese Democracy,' Guns N' Roses' decade-in-the-making opus, is finally here.

Interesting, I find the magazine to be a joke itself!

Not that THAT has anything to do with a fake review though.

I hate SPIN. Worst $15 I ever spent.

[ernie]

Seems like Axl is releasing "Better" as the second single. It would have been a better choice than "Chinese Democracy" as the first single. A more straight ahead, radio friendly song.

Can listen to the stream here:

http://www.q1043.com/pages/news/gunsnroses/better.html

Another review is out from the BBC. A bit of a mixed review.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7730075.stm

Is a broken heart to blame for the 15-year delay to Guns N' Roses new album? Throughout the course of Chinese Democracy, Axl Rose repeatedly refers to a "change of heart" and his "lonely tear drops".
"I just can't let it die, all the pain inside," he eventually blurts out on This I Love.



But if his mind hasn't been fully devoted to music over the past decade-and-a-half, it doesn't show.



This record is an uncompromising, fully-focused, hard rock monster.



At times, it will rattle the rafters with its ferocious riffs. At others, you will laugh out loud at the ridiculously overblown melodrama.



In other words, it's business as usual for Guns N' Roses.

[liamenator]

It's out today, figured this deserved a bump.

A few questions... Anybody go out and buy it today? Any opinions on the album in its entirety?

I bought it... If only to add such a mystical beast to my collection.

But... I think it's pretty damn good... I've listened to it a few times online and twice today, and it seems to be an album, like all great albums, that grows upon you with each listen.

Perhaps more interesting than the actual music, though, is the liner notes. Holy jesus, how Axl managed to keep track of who contributed what to each track I have no idea. He also has like 3 pages of thank-yous, in which it appears he hopes to pay tribute to every human being he has met (except Slash and Duff). Some of the more interesting inclusions:
Donatella Versace, Kid Rock, Sebastian Bach, Izzy Stradlin, Lars Ulrich & Metallica, Kimi Raikkonen, The Suicide Girls, Bubbles and the Trailer Park Boys, Mickey Rourke.

I am very intrigued to see how it will sell.

[Engine09]

Very strong album. Overly produced like you would expect but the songs are great, sounds like he achieved what he was after. I'm glad that he overcame whatever mental illness that held the album back all these years, looking forward to seeing him live again. That last show at the Saddledome was stellar.

The man is a lunatic, no doubt about it, but he's a gifted songwriter.

Love the album.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by theJuice

I thought this thread would be about something COMPLETELY differrent.

Haha me too. God I know NOTHING about music...

[ernie]

Canoe is giving it 5/5. It is getting very strong reviews. I haven't picked the album up yet but I have this summers leak and yeah there is layer upon layer of sound but the songs are pretty darn good. I think it was the Rolling Stone rview that said if thei was the Guns 'N roses Axl had been hearing in his head there was no way he could simply head back into the studio with the same lineup.

I also think that when you compare the Velvet Revolver, Snakepit and Izzy Stradlin stuff with this and other G'NR stuff you find out who the bigger contributors were to the song writing...Axl and Izzy. I like some of the Velvet Revolver and Snakepit work but it does pale in comparison. At least IMO.