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Old 01-23-2006, 10:11 AM   #21
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Also, it's illegal for Moore to be posting that:

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/E-2.01/15015.html#section-331

I sent him a cordial note pointing out the law and also saying, "Stay out of our election, and we'll stay out of yours."
LOL.

I just forwarded this info to Rutherford on QR...see if he bites.
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Old 01-23-2006, 10:14 AM   #22
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Depends what you think are equal rights. If I was gay and someone said "i believe in a free vote as to whether you can marry" i wouldn't consider that someone defending my rights. He may not be against it but it's kind of like he's taking a back seat in its resolution.
In the strictest sense though I don't think Harper is against gay rights though.
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Old 01-23-2006, 10:19 AM   #23
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My prediction:

Liberals 118
Conservatives 112
NDP 20
Bloc 57
Other 1
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Old 01-23-2006, 10:33 AM   #24
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My bold prediction:

Conservatives: 154
Liberals: 64
Block: 55
NDP: 35
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Old 01-23-2006, 10:47 AM   #25
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My bold prediction:

Conservatives: 154
Liberals: 64
Block: 55
NDP: 35
Well most pundits have it somewhere between 140-150 seats for the conservatives. If 154 we should put bets on which liberal is the first to cross the floor.....

One guy in the Globe today predicts 161 for the conservatives. The only guy to predict a majority...and he's an NDPer!

It could be interesting to see what happens if the conservatives end up only 10 seats short or so. The Liberals party could completely blow up if they are around the 70 seat mark. The in-fighting will take off like crazy. Does it completely destroy the party such that a large number of people start sitting as independents or crossing the floor?

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Old 01-23-2006, 10:53 AM   #26
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I think a lot of voters will back out of voting Conservative at the last minute, but instead throw their support to the NDP if they can't bring themselves to vote Liberal.

My guess is between 125-130 seats for the CPC.
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:22 AM   #27
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Well most pundits have it somewhere between 140-150 seats for the conservatives. If 154 we should put bets on which liberal is the first to cross the floor.....

One guy in the Globe today predicts 161 for the conservatives. The only guy to predict a majority...and he's an NDPer!

It could be interesting to see what happens if the conservatives end up only 10 seats short or so. The Liberals party could completely blow up if they are around the 70 seat mark. The in-fighting will take off like crazy. Does it completely destroy the party such that a large number of people start sitting as independents or crossing the floor?
My vote for first one to cross the floor would be Belinda Stronach.
Of course, if that happend I'd really like to see Harper tell her to go Fata herself.
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:25 AM   #28
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Alright, well, I had no idea they overturned that ruling. So, until all polls are closed do not post results. I guess that is about 8pm Mountain Time.

If you need your results fix check this AMERICAN website.

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:28 AM   #29
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This pretty much sums up my point of view. link
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:37 AM   #30
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Alright, well, I had no idea they overturned that ruling. So, until all polls are closed do not post results. I guess that is about 9pm Mountain Time.

If you need your results fix check this AMERICAN website.

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/
Actually it will be 8 MST....polls in BC close at 7.
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:37 AM   #31
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I think it's 8pm MT, KevanGuy. The polls in BC close at 7pm PT, at which point the broadcasters are released from their ball gags.
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:41 AM   #32
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Heh, duh. I was thinking Mountain to Eastern conversion and added 2 hours. Move along, move along. No more stupidity to see here.
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Old 01-23-2006, 12:08 PM   #33
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My vote for first one to cross the floor would be Belinda Stronach.
Of course, if that happend I'd really like to see Harper tell her to go Fata herself.
Belinda would only cross the floor if Harper made it worth her while. I doubt the Conservatives intend to create a Ministry of Power Whoring for her.

I doubt the Conservatives will come close enough to a majority for it to happen anyway. I'd be happy with 125-135 seats.
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Old 01-23-2006, 12:12 PM   #34
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My bold prediction:

Conservatives: 154
Liberals: 64
Bloc: 55
NDP: 35
Thats what I am thinking... maybe with the Liberals a bit closer to 70 and the NDP at bit closer to 30. Its bold... but I've been saying since January 1, somewhere between 125 and 155.

154 is a defacto majority by the way. What happens then is the Cons select a Liberal to be the speaker of the house, and it becomes 154 to 153 in the house, giving them a slim majority.
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Old 01-23-2006, 12:25 PM   #35
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Liberals are gonna win. There is no way in Hell Ontario and Atlantic Canada are gonna let a Conservative gov win.

Hate Liberals like I hate the Leafs. Both have an idiotic following.
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Old 01-23-2006, 12:28 PM   #36
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Another prediction site:

http://www.electionprediction.org/2005_fed/index.html

Conservatives: 118
Liberals: 104
Bloc: 56
NDP: 29
Other: 1
Total: 308
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Old 01-23-2006, 12:53 PM   #37
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I think it's gonna be a really slim Conservative government:

Cons: 114
Libs: 110
NDP: 29
Bloc: 54
Ind: 1

For once, the Conservatives actually get a lower percentage of seats than they do popular vote (37% of seats, and about 40% of vote).

Tough break for the NDP, who see their seats go up significantly, but see their actual power go down (because they can't effectively form any sort of majority alliance with either of the major parties). They would ideally like about a thirty-seat victory for either the Tories or the Liberals, so they can still control the balance of power.

Disappointing result for the Bloc, who gain only a couple seats despite having everything going for them.

In the case of a close result, the Quebec City independent will likely be willing to jump ship to the Tories.

All things considered, I don't think any party will really be happy. The Tories will be happiest, but given recent predictions of a 30-seat victory, they'll be disappointed that their margin is fairly small.
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Old 01-23-2006, 01:13 PM   #38
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Dont most polls ahve the Liberals up in Ontario and Atlantic Canada? Plus ther isn't enough Conservative support to win enough seats in Quebec which will most likely just take away votes form Liberal supporters and give the Bloc a bigger win.

So with Atlantic Canada and Ontario mostly Liberal that only leaves Alberta, as the Conservative main front and then the big 3 way fight for votes in B.C, Manitoba and Sask which dont even add up to the seats that are available in Liberal strong hols in Atlantic Canada and Ontario.

I hope and pray the Conservative win but i doubt it will even happen. i dont trust the Liberals and im an Aboringal and they promised my people 6Billion dollars which they conviently left of there budget which is never mentioned.
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Old 01-23-2006, 01:25 PM   #39
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My results:
By 8 pm MST:
Calgary 2 Edmonton 1 with 14:35 left in the second.

CPC 130
Libs 106
NDP 22
BQ 49
IND 1
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Old 01-23-2006, 01:28 PM   #40
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Okay, here's my guess. I should have started an office pool for this, as all I'm doing at work today is reading political info:

CPC 128
LPC 97
BQ 52
NDP 30
Oth 1
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