11-21-2024, 01:58 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Western Canada
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Originally Posted by MelBridgeman
What is up Karen?
AI is a far superior search engine.
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It's funny, as we were just doing some AI testing around facts.
AI sounds very definitive, but in about 25% of the cases gave completely incorrect facts.
It reminds me of that guy who emphatically tells you about incorrect facts, loudly.
The one I remember was about US salary data. It got the mean right (I think that was around $60k), but had median salary around $80k. Like it was so obviously wrong that it's kind of surprising, as there is no nuance in getting that fact.
The issue with AI is they don't give you the backing data to interpret if what it says is correct. If you like data and understand how much variety there is in a 'fact', this is a huge problem.
My take: AI is good for people that simply want an answer and aren't focused if the answer is correct. AI is really flawed when it comes to nuance and things that are grey, though it is ok at presenting concepts.
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11-21-2024, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by marsplasticeraser
It's funny, as we were just doing some AI testing around facts.
AI sounds very definitive, but in about 25% of the cases gave completely incorrect facts.
It reminds me of that guy who emphatically tells you about incorrect facts, loudly.
The one I remember was about US salary data. It got the mean right (I think that was around $60k), but had median salary around $80k. Like it was so obviously wrong that it's kind of surprising, as there is no nuance in getting that fact.
The issue with AI is they don't give you the backing data to interpret if what it says is correct. If you like data and understand how much variety there is in a 'fact', this is a huge problem.
My take: AI is good for people that simply want an answer and aren't focused if the answer is correct. AI is really flawed when it comes to nuance and things that are grey, though it is ok at presenting concepts.
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AI is basically like a loud user on Reddit. Makes sense since it gets a lot of data from Reddit.
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11-21-2024, 08:49 PM
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Craig McTavish' Merkin
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The stupidity of some people is amazing. And by some people I mean Mel.
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11-21-2024, 08:53 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marsplasticeraser
It's funny, as we were just doing some AI testing around facts.
AI sounds very definitive, but in about 25% of the cases gave completely incorrect facts.
It reminds me of that guy who emphatically tells you about incorrect facts, loudly.
The one I remember was about US salary data. It got the mean right (I think that was around $60k), but had median salary around $80k. Like it was so obviously wrong that it's kind of surprising, as there is no nuance in getting that fact.
The issue with AI is they don't give you the backing data to interpret if what it says is correct. If you like data and understand how much variety there is in a 'fact', this is a huge problem.
My take: AI is good for people that simply want an answer and aren't focused if the answer is correct. AI is really flawed when it comes to nuance and things that are grey, though it is ok at presenting concepts.
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I don't disagree at all. AI is wrong ALOT, in fact chatgpt appears to have regressed and i stopped paying for it because i no longer saw the advantage over the free version.
But i said superior search engine, but alas i figured it would go with out saying that what might work for me with what I do may not be for someone else.
it is still far superior over things like stackoverflow and github issues/discussions.
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11-21-2024, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DownInFlames
The stupidity of some people is amazing. And by some people I mean Mel.
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Thanks for chiming in!
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11-21-2024, 09:01 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Apartment 5A
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Oy
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11-21-2024, 09:27 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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That's the second thing the U.S government has asked Google to divest from. The first one was the DNA thing, I want to say 23 and me?
I wonder what the red flags are for the u.s government to start breaking up their biggest tech company.
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11-21-2024, 09:55 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Samsung browser is king on Samsung imo but I had 800 bookmarks to sync with Mac and pc was worst experience ever. Ended up switching to edge it's OK some problems but sync much easier
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11-21-2024, 09:56 PM
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wins 10 internets
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Why would they try to force Google to sell Android? Apple's marketshare in the US dwarfs that of Google/Android, why not go after them for iOS?
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11-21-2024, 10:13 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
I'd say this was important up to two years ago. Then AI came and everything is changing rapidly. I barely use Chrome anymore, it's all AI search now. And I suspect a growing number of people are doing the same thing.
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Do you trust AI search?
I find on anything requiring any technical detail it’s inaccurate. I find it quite frustrating.
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11-21-2024, 11:45 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
I'd say this was important up to two years ago. Then AI came and everything is changing rapidly. I barely use Chrome anymore, it's all AI search now. And I suspect a growing number of people are doing the same thing.
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That's the equivalent of saying "I don't use Chrome, I just use a search engine."
You can't use "AI", you use an AI by a company, which is a product. Googles AI is already integrated into their search and (I assume) browser.
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11-22-2024, 09:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marsplasticeraser
It's funny, as we were just doing some AI testing around facts.
AI sounds very definitive, but in about 25% of the cases gave completely incorrect facts.
It reminds me of that guy who emphatically tells you about incorrect facts, loudly.
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My take: AI is good for people that simply want an answer and aren't focused if the answer is correct. AI is really flawed when it comes to nuance and things that are grey, though it is ok at presenting concepts.
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So, basically Mel.
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11-22-2024, 10:11 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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Originally Posted by activeStick
"Good news, Bertha! Javascript is still being used today!"
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JavaScript is used everywhere. It's extremely popular.
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11-22-2024, 10:18 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
So, basically Mel.
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OMG so clever!
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11-22-2024, 10:58 AM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Western Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GGG
Do you trust AI search?
I find on anything requiring any technical detail it’s inaccurate. I find it quite frustrating.
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One thing that is worrying is the use of AI in wearables.
These are completely replacing google for search, as you ask a question and get an answer. The issue is that when you just hear "the answer is ABC" is an authorative sounding voice it seems right.
I have a friend that uses his rayban glasses quite a bit. It seemed really cool at first, and he would just get answers to questions. But this is where we first started to notice the issue with AI powered answers being wrong quite a bit.
Anyways, I know AI will get better, but I'm not sure just giving 1 answer is the best path forward for humanity. It's like the issue with people just reading headlines and not understanding article, only worse.
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11-22-2024, 01:23 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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What does this mean to me as someone who like the integration between my android phone, my google (gmail) account, and my chrome browser?
If I'm going to have to start remembering passwords I'm so ####ed.
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11-22-2024, 01:45 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Nothing yet.
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What happens next?
Google said it will file its own proposals next month. Court hearings on Google’s punishment are scheduled to begin in April. Judge Amit Mehta of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, who is overseeing the case, is expected to make a decision on Google’s punishment by August 2025.
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https://www.latimes.com/business/sto...u-need-to-know
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11-22-2024, 02:01 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Nothing yet.
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What happens next?
Google said it will file its own proposals next month. Court hearings on Google’s punishment are scheduled to begin in April. Judge Amit Mehta of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, who is overseeing the case, is expected to make a decision on Google’s punishment by August 2025.
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Judge 'Meta' eh? Is Ol' Zuckerberg getting involved? There appears to be something foul afoot in the state of Denmark... 
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11-22-2024, 02:17 PM
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#39
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Looooooooooooooch
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Of all the AIs out there, Google's in BY FAR the worst.
#### you Gemini, you useless piece of ####. And stop taking up the first result on every Google search. Gemini says this, recommends this, shut the #### up, I can find the info myself.
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11-23-2024, 10:48 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Originally Posted by Looch City
Of all the AIs out there, Google's in BY FAR the worst.
#### you Gemini, you useless piece of ####. And stop taking up the first result on every Google search. Gemini says this, recommends this, shut the #### up, I can find the info myself.
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And yet somehow Microsoft's is still WAY worse.
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