[Rumour] CHL to ban Russians and Belarusians from the upcoming import draft

[nfotiu]

It's probably good to wait on details before getting too upset about this.

It may be they just want to remove them from this upcoming draft because of uncertainty of whether they'd be able to leave there/come in here.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

you're sounding like a Russian apologist.

I'm against this move to ban the CHL from drafting kids.

Definitely not. Putin has Definitely made a bad decision and I am absolutely standing with the people of the Ukraine. I think this whole situation is garbage.

I also think tho that the US and Nato's actions have been a part of the lead up to this war. That is all.

I think the west needs to stop trying to Nation build. It just continues to lead to war and conflict. I was super hopeful that after Afghanistan the world could see a break from these types of conflict.

Anyway... that's all abit more than CHL news

[Robbob]

Looking forward to getting Matvei Michkov with our 6th rounder

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Woah, that's pretty significant and I think perhaps a step too far.

The parents of the dead 6 year old girl would probably disagree. Not to mention the parents of the 6000 dead Russian soldiers for Putins vanity war. #### Russia and their government. Apply every single pressure point available to end the madness. War crimes are happening as I type this and I'm supposed to give a #### about Russian players not being able to come to Canada to play hockey? No offense, but absolute horse #### take. Full disclaimer I'm fired up about this so let me apologize in advance for how aggressive this will read. I'm not mad at your or people who have this shared opinion.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

The parents of the dead 6 year old girl would probably disagree. Not to mention the parents of the 6000 dead Russian soldiers for Putins vanity war. #### Russia and their government. Apply every single pressure point available to end the madness. War crimes are happening as I type this and I'm supposed to give a #### about Russian players not being able to come to Canada to play hockey? No offense, but absolute horse #### take. Full disclaimer I'm fired up about this so let me apologize in advance for how aggressive this will read. I'm not mad at your or people who have this shared opinion.

Don't disagree but the line will be fuzzy, what's a step too far?

Student visas?
Working visas?

Interning canadian citizens of russian dissent? (definitely too far)

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Don't disagree but the line will be fuzzy, what's a step too far?

Student visas?
Working visas?

Whatever is practical.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Don't disagree but the line will be fuzzy, what's a step too far?

Student visas?
Working visas?

Interning canadian citizens of russian dissent? (definitely too far)

I would think we would welcome Canadian citizens that display Russia dissent......

BTW, I think decent, and no you should not be interning those people.


But yes, why not cut out work/student visas.

The West has facilitated these Despots and at some time we need to acknowledge that and change our dealings with them.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I would think we would welcome Canadian citizens that display Russia dissent......

BTW, I think decent, and no you should not be interning those people.


But yes, why not cut out work/student visas.

The West has facilitated these Despots and at some time we need to acknowledge that and change our dealings with them.

Thanks! It's descent! Hahaha.

Be careful though, you are entering into Trump territory. "Why do we keep taking these people from ####hole countries?"

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Thanks! It's descent! Hahaha.

Be careful though, you are entering into Trump territory. "Why do we keep taking these people from ####hole countries?"

I don't believe I am anywhere near Trump territory, but thanks for the warning.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

The parents of the dead 6 year old girl would probably disagree. Not to mention the parents of the 6000 dead Russian soldiers for Putins vanity war. #### Russia and their government. Apply every single pressure point available to end the madness. War crimes are happening as I type this and I'm supposed to give a #### about Russian players not being able to come to Canada to play hockey? No offense, but absolute horse #### take. Full disclaimer I'm fired up about this so let me apologize in advance for how aggressive this will read. I'm not mad at your or people who have this shared opinion.

Was it Russian draft picks who were committing those crimes?

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Was it Russian draft picks who were committing those crimes?

It's sanctions. It hurts everyone. The Russian guy working in the oil fields in Murmansk didn't start the war either. He's probably lost his job now.

I mean if Trudeau attacked someone they would stop buy Alberta beef. Cargill would be out of business and we don't even like Trudeau!

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

It's sanctions. It hurts everyone. The Russian guy working in the oil fields in Murmansk didn't start the work either. He's probably lost his job now.

I mean if Trudeau attacked someone they would stop buy Alberta oil. And we don't even like Trudeau!

Ummm everyone is still buying oil from Russia. The sanctions don't cover energy exports as the E.U and The U.S depend on Russian oil to much.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I don’t see this as all that different from some other sanctions. Sometimes they hurt the rich and powerful and sometimes they hurt the individual citizens.

As other have pointed out, it will maybe help turn the population further against Putin and the establishment, which isn’t a bad thing.

[Ducay]

People have to understand that not all sanctions have the same effect. Doesn't matter if its the CHL, or Apple phones, it all comes down to who those impacted get angry at. Good sanctions increase anger/pressure on Russian leadership, bad ones backfire.

Ban Russian population from Apple App Store, Apple products - surprisingly it will increase anger from population at political class in Russia (good)

Banning a couple kids from the CHL is likely to have those impacted (albeit a tiny # of people) actually more angry at Canada/the West than at their own political class, so actually is a net negative for our cause of ending the war, since they would see us as picking on some innocent kids uninvolved in the war.

[Wastedyouth]

Let the xenophobia begin!!!

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Woah, that's pretty significant and I think perhaps a step too far.

No way. Russian bombing a while nation of people but banning teens from Canadian hockey is a step too far...

Can't engage milatary with them but I think the plan is to make Russians revolt internally.

[ben voyonsdonc]

There is a danger of rallying people for Putin if it seems like sanctions are being applied against people in an unjust way. There are a lot of Russians who absolutely despise what Putin is doing.

I think, on a personal level, the Russian people who come to Canada should be embraced. It is not their fault that they are from a country with a despot who has silenced his critics and oppressed and murdered entire groups of people. I think showing love and respect for individual Russians will demonstrate a stark difference in comparison to how Putin is treating Ukrainians.

On the other hand, Russia should be denied any opportunity to wave their flag and hear their anthem played which is why I support banning Russian teams from participating in country vs country events.

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

It's sanctions. It hurts everyone. The Russian guy working in the oil fields in Murmansk didn't start the war either. He's probably lost his job now.

I mean if Trudeau attacked someone they would stop buy Alberta beef. Cargill would be out of business and we don't even like Trudeau!

These are 15-16 year old kids though, completely out of their control, I'm all for sanctions but sanctions against helpless parties seems weird.

[Jay Random]

Frankly, this looks to me like the CHL wanting to get on the pro-Ukraine bandwagon. For the reasons ben voyonsdonc and Ducay suggest, I think it may be counterproductive. But a lot of people want to make symbolic gestures, and they don't always think very hard about whether those measures will actually do any good.

I can't criticize their motives, but I question their judgement if this in fact is what they choose to do.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

There is a danger of rallying people for Putin if it seems like sanctions are being applied against people in an unjust way. There are a lot of Russians who absolutely despise what Putin is doing.

I think, on a personal level, the Russian people who come to Canada should be embraced. It is not their fault that they are from a country with a despot who has silenced his critics and oppressed and murdered entire groups of people. I think showing love and respect for individual Russians will demonstrate a stark difference in comparison to how Putin is treating Ukrainians.

On the other hand, Russia should be denied any opportunity to wave their flag and hear their anthem played which is why I support banning Russian teams from participating in country vs country events.

You can't really have sanctions on an industry and avoid hurting the average person. Obviously ordinary people are going to be employed in those industries and suffer the consequences. Some of the people might rally for the flag, some won't.

Sanctions on Myanmar hurt people a lot poorer than the average Russian. I guess it's too bad they suck at hockey.