08-03-2018, 04:10 PM
|
#21
|
|
Lifetime Suspension
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
Does everyone in Finland know everyone else's salary?
i mean is the government looking at tax returns or something?
|
Yes, your income is public knowledge. You can look up what your boss makes.
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to sempuki For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
08-03-2018, 04:15 PM
|
#22
|
|
In Your MCP
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watching Hot Dog Hans
|
What about housewives?
My wife would lose all control over there if she had no income, and therefore no fines. My tire bill would be insane!!
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2018, 04:28 PM
|
#23
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
The socialist country of Norway is sitting on $1 trillion in cash and owns 1.5% of all publicly traded companies on Earth. Their best selling car is the Tesla Model S, which can be had at the price of a VW GTI. They also have one of if not the lowest rates of recidivism in the world.
Sounds awful.
|
[FoxNews]
BUT BUT... BUT.. Venezuela!! SOCIALISM!! EVIIIIILLL
[/FoxNews]
__________________
|
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to White Out 403 For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
08-03-2018, 04:59 PM
|
#24
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
The socialist country of Norway is sitting on $1 trillion in cash and owns 1.5% of all publicly traded companies on Earth.
|
… on account of having a tiny population and huge state-owned oil reserves. Is that supposed to be a model that other countries can just choose to follow?
__________________
WARNING: The preceding message may not have been processed in a sarcasm-free facility.
|
|
|
|
|
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Jay Random For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
08-03-2018, 05:01 PM
|
#25
|
|
Scoring Winger
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
The socialist country of Norway is sitting on $1 trillion in cash and owns 1.5% of all publicly traded companies on Earth. Their best selling car is the Tesla Model S, which can be had at the price of a VW GTI. They also have one of if not the lowest rates of recidivism in the world.
Sounds awful.
|
No country in Scandinavia is completely Socialist. Norway is rich bc of their oil if you did not know. People are tired of too much socialism in Scandinavia which is why for example the Socialdemocratic party in Sweden is expected to have its worst election of all time a month from now.
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2018, 05:29 PM
|
#26
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
There’s nothing unfair about a fine calculated to have the exact same impact across the board regardless of income.
|
By some of the posts in this thread I can see why the NDP won the election.
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2018, 05:30 PM
|
#27
|
|
Powerplay Quarterback
|
I don’t mind it being based on income in this case. People should face real consequences for actions like that. 10 or 20K over isn’t a bit deal but 105 in a 60 is dangerous driving.
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2018, 05:32 PM
|
#28
|
|
Ate 100 Treadmills
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
The socialist country of Norway is sitting on $1 trillion in cash and owns 1.5% of all publicly traded companies on Earth. Their best selling car is the Tesla Model S, which can be had at the price of a VW GTI. They also have one of if not the lowest rates of recidivism in the world.
Sounds awful.
|
They also have one of the largest supplies of easily accessible oil in the world. Norway is a top exporter of oil in the world with a population of 5 million people.
They would actively have to try to mess things up....like Venezuela levels of try.
|
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to blankall For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
08-03-2018, 05:32 PM
|
#29
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
The socialist country of Norway is sitting on $1 trillion in cash and owns 1.5% of all publicly traded companies on Earth. Their best selling car is the Tesla Model S, which can be had at the price of a VW GTI. They also have one of if not the lowest rates of recidivism in the world.
Sounds awful.
|
Yeah, sounds horrible. So...when are you moving?
The fact of the matter is that a Sovereign state with massive oil reserves and a Province that is part of a Confederation that has seeked to screw us at every turn despite wallowing in the benefits of our resources are very different things.
And we've been over this a million times.
__________________
The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!
This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.
The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans
If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
|
|
|
|
08-03-2018, 05:34 PM
|
#30
|
|
Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Holland
|
Lordy. In some sick way, kinda thankful mine was only $1500. Goto an abandoned industrial area with no people or businesses to have some fun on the bike and gets me because the cop is out there for something else. So lame.
__________________
Crypto/AI Developer. 
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2018, 05:35 PM
|
#31
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by madmike
I don’t mind it being based on income in this case. People should face real consequences for actions like that. 10 or 20K over isn’t a bit deal but 105 in a 60 is dangerous driving.
|
This isn't necessarily true...
__________________
"The great promise of the Internet was that more information would automatically yield better decisions. The great disappointment is that more information actually yields more possibilities to confirm what you already believed anyway." - Brian Eno
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2018, 05:36 PM
|
#32
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by madmike
I don’t mind it being based on income in this case. People should face real consequences for actions like that. 10 or 20K over isn’t a bit deal but 105 in a 60 is dangerous driving.
|
The problem, as I understand it, is that the fines 10 or 20k over are also graduated by income. If a cop chose to give Barkov a ticket for going 1 km/h over the limit, he would probably still be paying thousands. Hard to spin that as reasonable by any standard.
__________________
WARNING: The preceding message may not have been processed in a sarcasm-free facility.
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2018, 05:41 PM
|
#33
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
The problem, as I understand it, is that the fines 10 or 20k over are also graduated by income. If a cop chose to give Barkov a ticket for going 1 km/h over the limit, he would probably still be paying thousands. Hard to spin that as reasonable by any standard.
|
Give it a minute. They'll find a way. Norway is paradise on Earth.
__________________
The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!
This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.
The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans
If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2018, 05:44 PM
|
#34
|
|
First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Haparanda
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Give it a minute. They'll find a way. Norway is paradise on Earth.
|
Oh god.
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2018, 05:49 PM
|
#35
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by vilzeh
Oh god.
|
Oh come on, you have to know I'm being heavily sarcastic.
Anyone that wants to compare Alberta to Norway is completely out to lunch and I'd say that they need to be 'Re-Educated' without the brainwashing tendencies but the true fact of the matter is that they just need to be educated first.
Either way, none of this has anything to do with Barkov's speeding ticket.
Ugh...drop the puck already.
__________________
The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!
This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.
The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans
If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2018, 05:52 PM
|
#36
|
|
First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Haparanda
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Oh come on, you have to know I'm being heavily sarcastic.
Anyone that wants to compare Alberta to Norway is completely out to lunch and I'd say that they need to be 'Re-Educated' without the brainwashing tendencies but the true fact of the matter is that they just need to be educated first.
Either way, none of this has anything to do with Barkov's speeding ticket.
Ugh...drop the puck already.
|
Of course I knew you were being sarcastic, hence the oh god as in: An order of drama on its way. 
Lähetetty minun WAS-LX1 laitteesta Tapatalkilla
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2018, 06:09 PM
|
#37
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by blankall
They also have one of the largest supplies of easily accessible oil in the world. Norway is a top exporter of oil in the world with a population of 5 million people.
They would actively have to try to mess things up....like Venezuela levels of try.
|
Wait, which is it?
Is Denmark oil rich because they're socialist... like.. Venezuela... my mind.. hurts... what?
*passes out*
__________________
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2018, 07:03 PM
|
#38
|
Participant  |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
By some of the posts in this thread I can see why the NDP won the election.
|
Ok.
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2018, 09:48 PM
|
#39
|
|
First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Fantasy Island
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Yeah, sounds horrible. So...when are you moving?
The fact of the matter is that a Sovereign state with massive oil reserves and a Province that is part of a Confederation that has seeked to screw us at every turn despite wallowing in the benefits of our resources are very different things.
And we've been over this a million times.
|
Can anyone just move to Norway if they want? I somehow doubt it. It really doesn’t further the debate to suggest that somebody should “just move there if they like it so much”.
__________________
comfortably numb
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2018, 10:06 PM
|
#40
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Its awesome! Its all about gaming the system. If I were to leave all of my income within my company I could speed and commit other income-tested infractions with impunity!
"It appears you make $0 good sir, so be on your way and please be safe!"  |
Doesn't work that way.
Here's how the Finnish system works.
3-6 km/h over the limit you usually get off with a warning.
7-15 km/h you get 140 euro ticket, or a 170 euro ticket if the speed limit was sixty or less.
15-20 km/h over the limit you get a 200 euro ticket.
All of the above is regardless of income.
You have to break the speed limit by at least 20 km/h to get a ticket that's dependent of your income, so serious speeding. There's a minimum you get if you have no income, but not sure what that is. Likely more than 200 euros.
Edit : oh and the police also shaves a few kms off the meter reading before they consider the ticket to account for measurement errors. So if you get a ticket like Barkovs, you most likely were going at least 25 km/h over the speed limit.
Last edited by Itse; 08-03-2018 at 10:33 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to Itse For This Useful Post:
|
|
| Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:31 AM.
|
|
