Yeah, not 4th best, but still, if they end up trading Methot as expected, their D isn't very good. Hoping the Flames pick up Schmidt for cheap.
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From HFBoard oiler fan, in analyzing MacT's management:
O.K. there has been a lot of talk on whether or not MacTavish has actually done a good job for us, most fans on this board are very basic in their analysis and I feel would change their opinion entirely if the team was successful.
Schlemko their 4th best blue liner? That's a funny joke. Your player evaluation is waaay off in this case
Nope. 4th or 5th, anyway. Theodore, Schmidt, Miller, McNabb are arguably better but I'm not as high on Schmidt as some are.
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Very strong possibility that the 29th, 30th and 31st worst teams are all in our own division next year. The Pacific will end up hogging the Wildcard spots from all the free points.
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The thing is, my posts, thoughts and insights may be my opinions but they're also quite factual.
Any discussion of their defense that puts Schlemko ahead of Methot tells me you can't evaluate defencemen properly. We'll agree to massively disagree about where Schlemko would've fit on their blue line.
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Methot is old, slow and terrible given his contract. He does nothing as well as the average 2nd pairing guy - not scoring, not generating assists, not generating shots, not suppressing shots. He's marginally sub-par at all of it (except shots for where he's significantly sub-par). You're mesmerized by name recognition and memories of a player who used to be pretty decent and no longer is.
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Methot is old, slow and terrible given his contract. He does nothing as well as the average 2nd pairing guy - not scoring, not generating assists, not generating shots, not suppressing shots. He's marginally sub-par at all of it (except shots for where he's significantly sub-par). You're mesmerized by name recognition and memories of a player who used to be pretty decent and no longer is.
Agree to disagree. Analytics lovers tend to underrate strong, physical, defensive defensemen in general. You'll never convince them otherwise and I'm not going to even bother.
Methot's trade value will certainly be way, way ahead of Schlemko's so I guess most NHL GM's will disagree with your assessment of them relative to each other.
When I look at the players that were available to pick straight up (I get that some teams could have changed their lists if trades were not worked out but it would have been a lot of work and there's no guarantee they pull it off as few teams could take on players themselves without leaving other assets unprotected) and compare it to what Vegas ended up with I am pretty underwhelmed with the Vegas roster. Not a fan of what McPhee has done this week.
Schlemko is weird. He's like your typical bottom pairing 6-7 defenseman but then randomly he's also a really awesome stickhandler. Bizarre skillset.
It's more like he's a top 4 defenseman as long as you only play him for 6-7 defenseman minutes.
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