09-19-2005, 09:42 AM
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Location: Calgary
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Originally posted by Frank the Tank@Sep 19 2005, 12:55 PM
You don't have kids, do you?
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Nope. But if I did, and someone hurt them, I'd probably kill him. I'd also know, deep down, that killing him would be wrong and stupid.
I certainly wouldn't 'front' online, talking about who I'd kill when, and under what circumstances, every time an article comes out about a tragedy.
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09-19-2005, 11:19 AM
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Location: London, Ontario
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Originally posted by Agamemnon@Sep 19 2005, 10:42 AM
I certainly wouldn't 'front' online, talking about who I'd kill when, and under what circumstances, every time an article comes out about a tragedy.
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What do you mean by that? I don't get it. I said I'd kill anyone who hurt my kid. End of story.
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09-19-2005, 11:38 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally posted by Frank the Tank@Sep 19 2005, 05:19 PM
What do you mean by that? I don't get it. I said I'd kill anyone who hurt my kid. End of story.
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Sounds good... where do I disagree with that?
Sorry, I guess I assumed when you asked if I had kids, that it was somehow related to this thread.
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09-19-2005, 11:43 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Problem is every so often you hear about people who are proved innocent years after the fact. If you catch them in the act, or can prove mass murder (Picton farm anyone) I'll agree with you. But without catching them red handed you cannot take justice into your own hands.
What is worse: allowing a criminal to go free (and perhaps recommit their crime); or locking up/sentencing to death an innocent person?
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09-19-2005, 11:43 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: London, Ontario
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Originally posted by Agamemnon@Sep 19 2005, 12:38 PM
Sounds good... where do I disagree with that?
Sorry, I guess I assumed when you asked if I had kids, that it was somehow related to this thread.
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As an aside, does anyone have a link to the story yet? I'd like to read about it. Other than the fact the guy was arrested for murdering his kids murderer, I don't know much about this story. Do you know the whole story Agememnon? Is it a local thing in Calgary or what?
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09-19-2005, 11:49 AM
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Location: Calgary
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Originally posted by Frank the Tank@Sep 19 2005, 05:43 PM
As an aside, does anyone have a link to the story yet? I'd like to read about it. Other than the fact the guy was arrested for murdering his kids murderer, I don't know much about this story. Do you know the whole story Agememnon? Is it a local thing in Calgary or what?
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Nope, don't know anything about it. Sounds like it certainly could have happened anywhere though.
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09-19-2005, 11:51 AM
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Location: Calgary
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Originally posted by Bobblehead@Sep 19 2005, 05:43 PM
But without catching them red handed you cannot take justice into your own hands.
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Well... you can't do it even when you do catch them... that's why we spend billions on a legal system every year.
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09-19-2005, 07:52 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Originally posted by RougeUnderoos@Sep 18 2005, 08:18 PM
I disagree. Murder is never plain and simple. Every case has different variables surrounding it and should be viewed as such. I know the legal system, can't really let the father get away with this, because it sets a dangerous precedent, but I still feel sorry for him.
Hyothetical Situation: The father had came apon the other man as he was raping/murdering his daughter. He then killed him there to save his daughter. Still plain and simple, or self defense?
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Okay what exactly are we talking about here? The guy unstable guy who had a few drinks and decided to go shoot a couple of sex offenders, or the mysterious and unknown vigilante who wacked his child's killer?
The guy I'm talking about is the guy that knocked on the door of a couple sex offenders and shot them.
As for your little scenario about some dude who "came across someone killing his daughter", that's pretty easy -- you kill that guy. It's kind of irrelevant to the discussion though, isn't it? [/quote]
There seems to be some confusion. I thougth we were talking about a dad whos daughter was raped and muredered, who then went and killed the rapist/murderer.
I thought you were talking about this too. My bad.
Anyway, the point I was trying to make was that I don't think murder is plain and simple as you stated.
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