02-23-2017, 05:13 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2015
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To be honest, I don't really see how this is news to us fans.
If Treliving was not looking at goaltender options throughout the league, he's not doing his job as GM.
Maybe it's good to get confirmation that Treliving is trying to address same weaknesses in the team that we see.
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02-23-2017, 05:14 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
What is his percentage without the weird Nashville game? He was great against Vancouver.
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Subtract the Nashville game (so 12 games played), and he's still at a putrid .897.
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02-23-2017, 05:19 PM
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#23
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I'm going to guess Philipp Grubauer for Cal 2nd, Hickey and Johnson.
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02-23-2017, 05:21 PM
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#24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_Chief
I'm going to guess Philipp Grubauer for Cal 2nd, Hickey and Johnson.
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Just noticed that Washington does have to protect Grubauer, and they're obviously going to go with Holtby - so Grubauer may be an option for the Flames at some point.
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02-23-2017, 05:21 PM
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#25
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Subtract the Nashville game (so 12 games played), and he's still at a putrid .897.
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Yes, I just looked at it. Are you saying he played badly in Vancouver? I say no but he was sub-.900. He only was in for 20 minutes against AZ. The Flames were terrible and he let in a goal, so his % suffers. And he was really good versus Philly, Ottawa, Minnesota.
Save percentage is better than GAA as a stat but not a whole lot. Especially on low shot teams
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02-23-2017, 05:22 PM
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#26
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I think we need to address the reasons why competent goalies come here and fail out before we add another goalie, only to have him fail out too.
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02-23-2017, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
I can't agree with you.
Since January 1st, Elliott has played 13 games. He's boasting a stellar .891 save percentage during that time.
That's not good goaltending, that's bottom of the barrel goaltending. I've posted this stat before, but for goalies have that started at least 20 games, Elliott ranks 44/47 in save percentage. Elliott is not good.
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What? That's not true, not according to NHL.com
His SV% is .900, with a GAA of 2.60 since January 1st.
Comparatively (since Jan 1st):
Price - .902
Jones - .903
Crawford - .901
Vasilevsky - .898
Andersen - .894
MAF - .894
Seems like Elliott has been about as good as some of the top goalies in the league have been since the same cut-off.
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02-23-2017, 05:30 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
I'd be way happier sending this year's first and Elliott to Tampa for Bishop than I would be with Matthew Tkachuk +. He's not had a great year, but he's been good, and maybe he's come down off that 7/49 ask.
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Sorry if I missed something, but is there a suggestion we are trading Tkachuk?
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02-23-2017, 05:30 PM
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing
Sorry if I missed something, but is there a suggestion we are trading Tkachuk?
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No, but that would have been the cost at the draft. Our 1st (Tkachuk)+
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02-23-2017, 05:31 PM
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#30
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
What? That's not true, not according to NHL.com
His SV% is .900, with a GAA of 2.60 since January 1st.
Comparatively (since Jan 1st):
Price - .902
Jones - .903
Crawford - .901
Vasilevsky - .898
Andersen - .894
MAF - .894
Seems like Elliott has been about as good as some of the top goalies in the league have been since the same cut-off.
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This is what I mean. I watch highlights of goals around the league and lots of them would send CPers screaming if Elliott was in goal.
ETA: .891 versus .900 isn't that much over a small sample size with a couple low shot games or relief work games thrown in. Maybe a goal or two difference.
Last edited by GioforPM; 02-23-2017 at 05:34 PM.
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02-23-2017, 05:33 PM
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#31
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by AC
No, but that would have been the cost at the draft. Our 1st (Tkachuk)+
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I see. Thanks.
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02-23-2017, 05:50 PM
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#32
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Elliott's save percentage is sub-.900 on the season, and his stats over the last little bit are indicative of this. He's made some key saves as of late at key times, but he's still not performing up to par and he's consistently lost the goaltending battle all season long.
The goaltending position needs to be upgraded.
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02-23-2017, 05:51 PM
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#33
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jun 2012
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i think fluery ends up a flame in the offseason
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02-23-2017, 06:20 PM
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#34
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Sigh. Was so hopeful we had solved our goaltending issues last summer.
Still hopeful Elliott can get hot these next 3-4 games. We know what we've got in Johnson.
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02-23-2017, 06:21 PM
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#35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DionTheDman
I think we need to address the reasons why competent goalies come here and fail out before we add another goalie, only to have him fail out too.
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I hope the Flames hire a new goaltending coach after this season. It's felt like such a circus these past few years
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02-23-2017, 06:27 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkGio
I hope the Flames hire a new goaltending coach after this season. It's felt like such a circus these past few years
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I couldn't figure out how our goalie coach escaped the last night of long knives. He should have been the first to go.
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02-23-2017, 06:30 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DionTheDman
I think we need to address the reasons why competent goalies come here and fail out before we add another goalie, only to have him fail out too.
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Get rid of Jordan Sigilet as the goaltending coach.
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02-23-2017, 06:33 PM
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#38
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maple Bay, B.C.
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Saw scanning in the thread title and this came to mind:
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02-23-2017, 06:37 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dion
Get rid of Jordan Sigilet as the goaltending coach.
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This x1000 since last year.
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02-23-2017, 06:49 PM
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All I can get
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_Chief
I'm going to guess Philipp Grubauer for Cal 2nd, Hickey and Johnson.
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That's an interesting idea. Grubauer would certainly fit in age-wise with the core of the squad.
Feasible? I'm sure the Caps are looking to make a deep run in the playoffs. If something would happen to Holtby, they'd be hooped. Would Elliot as a return suffice? I have some doubts.
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