Rate the Flames 2016 NHL Draft

[bigrangy]

No immediate busts. Great draft.

Expecting great things from Lindstrom and Dube. Other guys will all be solid minor league pros, and all of them have a good shot at making the NHL.

[nik-]

Mitchell Mattson and Linus Lindstrom sound like the kind of names Stan Lee would make up for Superhero alter egos.

[Trailer Fire]

Solid B.

I like most of the picks made, but I'm a tad Dube-ious over the Dillon pick. I love Falkowsky in the 7th. I thought for sure he would be gob by the 4th round.

My biggest detractors are that Calgary couldn't move up to #3, and they didn't (or couldn't) draft Tage Thompson. We picked up Tkachuk which is absolutely awesome, however. And it isn't our fault Tage slipped through our fingers. I blame Dallas for sucking.

[locsofblu]

Let you know in 3 years. But so far so good.

[devo22]

draft a highly rated forward early in the first round - check
trade for a starting goaltender without breaking the bank - check

everything else is just gravy right now. Really liked the Fox, Lindström and Mattson picks at first glance.

[dammage79]

To Button on the Fan:

"Hows the draft?" "Whatever Tree said!"

- Good diverse draft.
- Biggest thing is skill.
- Big Skill was a thing but BPA was the run.
- Matt Tkachuk is a skill player. Hard skill to measure, hard to find.
- The Flames list: Knew what other teams in the top 5 were doing except Edmonton. Knew Van was on about two players.
- End of the day Tkachuk is a hard to find player. Pumped.
- Very happy they got to make 9 picks. Fin scout was pushing for Tuulola. Each scout got their guy they were passionate about.
- List of 72 had only a couple guys left. Would've been fully exhausted in 5th round. - --- Went away from their list to go after Linstrom.
- Wow, Linstrom and Fox were hotly contested. Still got Linstrom after the fox pick.
- Sweden scout wanted Linstrom
- Had Parssons high. 54 was the right spot.
- West scouts honed in on Dube , loves his "hunger".
- Jim Cummins was a dog on a bone for Adam Fox. "Brains, Vision and skill". Elite.
- Undersized but there was no way Cummins was going to let the Flames leave the draft without Fox.
- I think he's eluding to a Ghostibhere comparable.
- Sweden scout fought for Linstrom big time. The think he needs to be more offensive, he's too focused on 200ft game. Want him to show off his creativity more.
- Mattson: Big intriguing kid. Raw, inexperienced hockey wise. Tracked him a ton. 6'5" guy raw sill and ability, they had to have him.
- Tuulola: Big power winger and likes to score. Simple guy, give and go type guy. Loves to score. Not as skilled as a Dube guy, but that hunger is there. Scouts fought hard for him.
- Phillips: Connie wanted him in the worst way. Skill and brain, 5'7"-ish. Undeniable. Taking guys like this has worked, we'll keep going with it. Phillips is a Connie pick.
- Falkovsky: They like him last year. Got hurt before they could go back to Europe and watch him. Great mobility, needs to get quicker. They'd be chasing him in 3 years if he was in Nakladals position.

- Next years scouting starts tomorrow with the select 17's.

[squiggs96]

Besides Tkachuk and Elliott, I've never heard of any of these guys. I think it's silly to grade a draft right after it finishes. I'd rather wait 3-5 years and make an informed decision. Outside of the top 10 picks in the entire draft, it's just a bunch of kids that most people are guessing on

[dammage79]

Quick addendum to that Button thing that I missed. They were going to take Parssons with #35 if they didn't trade it for Elliott. Thats how high they had him.

[zoom]

what is the 'list of 72'? Assuming the players the Flames wanted?

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by zoom

what is the 'list of 72'? Assuming the players the Flames wanted?

The Flames list this year was 72 players long, ranked and prepped.

[AC]

Originally Posted by zoom

what is the 'list of 72'? Assuming the players the Flames wanted?

Probably, Conroy said yesterday that his first draft he was surprised to see the Flames only had 60 players on their list, despite 200+ getting picked.

I think those numbers alone hammer home how there is no universal "board".

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

Besides Tkachuk and Elliott, I've never heard of any of these guys.

Besides Lindstrom, I've heard of ALL of these guys !

10/10 draft

[Vinny01]

I am going to grade this an A considering A+

The flames got the prospect I had number 4 overall. The night of the lottery Tkachuk was the player I really hoped the Flames would get. After the memorial cup I thought there was no way he made it past 4. I feel that pick some makes this draft an A. Then the Fames spend only 1 pick obtaining a starting goalie. I was lukewarm to Elliot prior to the trade but have really come around. He comes cheap on the cap and we still have max flexibility going into the expansion draft.

Making 9 picks is solid. 2 2nd rounders for the 3rd straight draft helps keep the cupboards stocked.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by zoom

what is the 'list of 72'? Assuming the players the Flames wanted?

On the Fan before the draft, one of the Flames brass (Button, IIRC) was saying that they had 72 players on their main list, ranked in numerical order. These were players that they thought highly enough of to send scouts from other regions to look at them, so they had multiple viewings by multiple scouts and could fairly rank them against each other.

After that, the scouts from each region had their own regional lists, which were not ranked numerically. Each player on those lists was labelled according to the kind of player he was: skill forward, bottom-6 forward, PMD, what have you. Usually the main numbered list is used up by about the fourth round, and they use the regional lists to make the later picks.

HTH.

[btimbit]

Tkachuk and Elliot - FANTASTIC

The rest, I won't pretend to know anything about. I like the focus on smart players though

[AC]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Besides Lindstrom, I've heard of ALL of these guys !

10/10 draft

Any chance you can give a quick run down on the players we picked from your perspective? Always love reading when a poster has actually watched a specific player, instead of just reiterating what other media members are saying.

[Calgary Highlander]

Aside from having Tkachuk fall into our lap, i'm just happy there were no Kanzig/Smith type reaches in the top half of the draft. Kanzig especially stings a bit as solid players like Duclair and Janmark were drafted later in the same round.

Much prefer drafting skilled, intelligent guys like Dube and Fox in that range of picks and saving the big project guys for later rounds.

[Jiggy_12]

All we can really rate right now is Tkachuk and Elliot. The rest is a wait and see.
On the two knowns, I'd give it an A.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by AC

Any chance you can give a quick run down on the players we picked from your perspective? Always love reading when a poster has actually watched a specific player, instead of just reiterating what other media members are saying.

I haven't watched all of the players, saw a bit of Fox at the U17s and he had my attention though. Parsons was also obviously good for the Knights in the Mem Cup.

It's just that pretty much every skater we drafted in late rounds - Dube, Fox, Mattson, Phillips, Falkovsky, were all guys I looked into a few weeks prior and would have been happy with at 35 / 54 / 56 / 66 because from the reports they were all a select-few possessed traits I value - hockey sense + skill = upside. Tuulola was the one guy I was iffy on (at 96) but I also recall a few CP members pumping him, plus he's big and shoots right..

In particular,
Mattson at 35 and I would have been content.
Mattson at 126? WHOA.

[Red Menace]

I for one am very happy with what I've read about the picks, was a little leery about Parsons, but think we did very well.