TSN/McKenzie's 2016 draft midterm rankings

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

Exceptional player status Sean Day not in the top 30 (ranked 46). Still can't figure out why he was given that status. So odd.

Cause he was huge and fast at an early age so he could play against players several years older than him.

And being ranked in the top two rounds isn't an insult.

[Trailer Fire]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

Exceptional player status Sean Day not in the top 30 (ranked 46). Still can't figure out why he was given that status. So odd.

He was a big guy at a very young age. He's no Ethan Lavallee, but he was still pretty big.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

My version of Bob's list modified for my personal preferences and Flames needs:

1. Matthews
2. Laine
3. Puljujarvi
4. Tkachuk
5. Chychrun
6. Dubois
7. Juolevi
8. Nylander
9. Gauthier
10. McLeod

[FlamesAddiction]

I feel bad for asking this, but what would be a more modern comparable for Trottier (Matthews)?

I am too young to remember his prime years and only remember his last few seasons where he was more a wily veteran.

Would Yzerman maybe be a good comparable? Or maybe Tavares?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

And being ranked in the top two rounds isn't an insult.

It is when every previous Exceptional Player went first overall.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Someone is going to absolutely ####ing steal Alex Debrincat.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Cause he was huge and fast at an early age so he could play against players several years older than him.

And being ranked in the top two rounds isn't an insult.

I know it's not an insult, but McDavid, Tavares, and Ekblad all went 1st overall and he can't crack the top 30? Even at the time he was picked 4th in the bantam draft. It didn't make a ton of sense then and it makes even less sense now.

[AC]

A Matthews/Laine/Poolparty pick would be incredible for this franchise. That would give us 4 franchise forwards all within the ideal age group.

Though I wouldn't be upset with a 4-10 pick based on my limited viewings of those ranked.

[AC]

Dubois looked like a fantastic 2 way forward in the prospects game.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Someone is going to absolutely ####ing steal Alex Debrincat.

Do Want.

Ferland-Bennett-Puljujarvi (Shaw-Toews-Hossa except unproven)
DeBrincat-Monahan-Gaudreau (Panarin-Anisimov-Kane except smaller)

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I feel bad for asking this, but what would be a more modern comparable for Trottier (Matthews)?

I am too young to remember his prime years and only remember his last few seasons where he was more a wily veteran.

Would Yzerman maybe be a good comparable? Or maybe Tavares?

Toews is the easy comparison - but it feels like Toews gets compared to a lot of guys. Going back a few years I would say Peter Forsberg. Same skill+intensity.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

I know it's not an insult, but McDavid, Tavares, and Ekblad all went 1st overall and he can't crack the top 30? Even at the time he was picked 4th in the bantam draft. It didn't make a ton of sense then and it makes even less sense now.

He was "exceptional" because he was a man-child with great skating not because he was a generational player. That's it. He had to play junior at that young age because he was so far ahead in physical development compared to his peers.

McDavid, Tavares and Ekblad all were exceptional talents and in Ekblad's case were exceptional in terms of physical development. The only thing Day shares with them is that he was similarly physically developed like Ekblad.

[TheOnlyBilko]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I feel bad for asking this, but what would be a more modern comparable for Trottier (Matthews)?

I am too young to remember his prime years and only remember his last few seasons where he was more a wily veteran.

Would Yzerman maybe be a good comparable? Or maybe Tavares?

Before Wayne Gretzky took over the NHL there was Bryan Trottier. I'm not joking.
Steve Yzerman & Gordie Howe are also good comparisons.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

#2 Laine

7 out of 10 scouts have him at #2

some scouts believe that anyone is going to challenge Matthews as 1st OA, its going to be Laine


#3 Puljujarvi

has the ability to score goals like Laine, but more of a complete player than Laine


lot of the scouts felt that Laine is more of a pure goal scorer/flashier (re why Laine over Puljujarvi)

Sounds like Crosby vs. Ovechkin, a notch or two down.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Toews is the easy comparison - but it feels like Toews gets compared to a lot of guys. Going back a few years I would say Peter Forsberg. Same skill+intensity.

Trottier was an elite two-way player. I like the Toews comparison but if Toews also led the league in scoring.

[loob job]

Originally Posted by New Era

My list of who I hope the Flames have a crack at.

1. Matthews
2. Laine
3. Puljujarvi
4. Gauthier
5. Chychrun
6. Tkachuk
7. Dubois
8. McLeod
9. Bean
10. Bellows

Other players I would be happy if they got a crack at include Tufte, Jones, Brown, Thompson, Bastain, DeBrincat, Raddysh, Hart, Fitzpatrick, and Sawchenko,. Hopefully the Flames will garner a few more draft picks and come away with three or more of these guys.

New Era, you don't like Nylander?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Button's best in class

Best skater: Chychrun
Best Hands: Nylander
Smartest player: Matthews
Best shot: Matthews
Biggest heart: Tkachuk

Benson, Clague, Steel are considered wild cards by McKenzie. Mckenzie highlights that outside of the top 20 there is a lot of volatility in the rankings. Guys ranked in the 20s may be interchangeable with guys ranked 31-50.

I was under the impression from the reading about these guys over the last six months that Laine had the best shot.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

He was "exceptional" because he was a man-child with great skating not because he was a generational player. That's it. He had to play junior at that young age because he was so far ahead in physical development compared to his peers.

McDavid, Tavares and Ekblad all were exceptional talents and in Ekblad's case were exceptional in terms of physical development. The only thing Day shares with them is that he was similarly physically developed like Ekblad.

IMO the real reason he was given exceptional player status is that Hockey Canada/CHL wanted to keep him away from the US development program so he'd play internationally in Canada. If he didn't have that option to play in the US program - I highly doubt he'd have been given the exception.

[united]

He's no John McFarland

[Two Fivenagame]

Thanks for this sureLoss

Seems like Dubois has been rising steadily. Wonder if he could go higher? 5-6 maybe?