Notes from Dec 2 Practice

[Goodlad]

It's like arguing whether Fuji apples or Granny Smiths are better to make your orange juice with

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Goodlad

It's like arguing whether Fuji apples or Granny Smiths are better to make your orange juice with

That's not a very good analogy.

It's like if someone gave you the choice between stabbing hot needles into your eyeballs, or covering your head with honey and dipping it into a colony of Mexican fire ants.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by heep223

That's not a very good analogy.

It's like if someone gave you the choice between stabbing hot needles into your eyeballs, or covering your head with honey and dipping it into a colony of Mexican fire ants.

Well I don't see how either of those helps you make orange juice.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Look, if you're going to drop numbers, drum up the numbers from Ramo before Hiller went down and before Ramo got waived.

Hiller is the better goalie. Give him a run of starts like Ramo got and I guarantee the numbers will back it up.

I'm fully aware of my preferencial bias on this topic, but even in Ramos extended run of starts, he's barely been on par. Hanging by a thread.

He's not going to get better, in fact, in typical Ramos fashion, he will get worse. Its the same for Hiller, but he should get his run.

At the end of the day you need to win some games and Ramo is 4-2-1 in his last seven games (105 point pace).

Hiller is 2-4 (55 pt pace) this season, and should probably be 2-5 (47 pt pace) or 2-4-1 (58 pt pace) as Ortio ended up getting credited with the SOL against the sens, which didn't even feel like it would go to OT with Hiller in net.

I think Hiller > Ramo, but right now it's total nonsense to replace a goalie winning at an over 100 point pace with a goalie winning at a worse-than-last-year's Sabres pace. If Hiller wants the net back, he'll get plenty of opportunities to take it back by playing well. Which, he certainly didn't do against the Sharks.

As for Ramo not getting better, that's debatable. In the second half of 2013-14 he played his most consistent hockey as a Flame. His worst games positioning-wise tend to come after a hiatus.

[FanIn80]

Wait a minute... Orange Juice comes from apples?

Holy carp!

[drewtastic]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Well I don't see how either of those helps you make orange juice.

It's like choosing between Crystal Pepsi and Pepsi Max.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

At the end of the day you need to win some games and Ramo is 4-2-1 in his last seven games (105 point pace).

Hiller is 2-4 (55 pt pace) this season, and should probably be 2-5 (47 pt pace) or 2-4-1 (58 pt pace) as Ortio ended up getting credited with the SOL against the sens, which didn't even feel like it would go to OT with Hiller in net.

I think Hiller > Ramo, but right now it's total nonsense to replace a goalie winning at an over 100 point pace with a goalie winning at a worse-than-last-year's Sabres pace. If Hiller wants the net back, he'll get plenty of opportunities to take it back by playing well. Which, he certainly didn't do against the Sharks.

As for Ramo not getting better, that's debatable. In the second half of 2013-14 he played his most consistent hockey as a Flame. His worst games positioning-wise tend to come after a hiatus.

I agree with almost all of this, right down to my personal preference overall (Hiller) but my preference for next game (Ramo). I agree Hiller will get better with moer starts, but even though Ramo put his team in a big hole last game, you don't change after a win.