[Rumour] Wideman and Russell's names on the trade market

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Originally Posted by Stud_McCool

Bad time to trade either. Their trade value has plummeted, so the return will be underwhelming.

Hasn't there be a few reports about GMs changing their minds on Wideman this year so now they would consider trading for him?

[codynw]

I voted Russell in the poll, but would have said "both if the value is there" if it was an option.

[vicarious]

I thought Wideman has a NMC on his contract?

[darthma]

I have to stop visiting CP after losses. It's just gloomy in here. BLOW IT UP. TRADE THEM ALL! THEY ARE ALL GARBAGE. GLENCROSS IS A JERK! OH WAIT, HE RETIRED, I WISH HIM WELL!! HE WAS DA BEST!

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by DionTheDman

Maybe they can be packaged with a decent prospect, like a Poirier or a Klimchuk, to get a solid asset back.

I say no to trading any prospect unless it is to get a better prospect back in return.

I voted Russell in the poll because I think he nets the better return and I'm not sure I want to see this management team hand out any more extensions right now. So I think he gets traded no matter what.

Wideman with retained salary is interesting, but then I think you trade both by end of year. And I'm not sure enough D prospects are ready for prime time yet.

[flamesfan55]

Strictly based on age and contract I went with Wideman. Clear the salary and the term off the books and allow some youth there. Russell is up after this year anyways so trade him at the deadline if the team isn't making a push.

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by Phaneufenstein

I know the coolest thing on this board lately is to hate on Russell, but Wideman has been worse in my opinion.

When you take the scoring away you're not left with much positive.
He's horrible in his own zone, and is probably the slowest player on the team.

I would bet he was one of the last Flames players in fitness testing.

It's not about being cool....Russell has been brutal. Feels like he left it all out there last year and has nothing left.

Then again, last year was bubblegum and candy floss....in reality he couldn't clear the zone then either.

[SofaProfessor]

I like Russell but I think he nets a better return right now and he's more easily replaced by the guys behind him. When Wideman is on his game his offensive ability is hard to match for most defenders.

[The Yen Man]

Wideman and Klimchuk for Stamkos. Get it done Tre!

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I don't see anyway that Wideman is on this team when we are legitimately competing for the Cup and certainly not on his current deal so I have zero problem moving him.

If the reports are true that Russell will be looking for 4+ this off-season then he too likely isn't in the plans .

If I had to choose 1 to move I say Wideman but if return is good I have no problem moving both of them.

[Mattman]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Will either of them get a starting goalie?

Depends on your term of starting goalie. Like Talbot is the starter in Edmonton but we know how we feel about that.

Maybe like a Mike Smith or Cam Ward (big gamble)

[CroFlames]

I'm OK with either getting traded if the return is good. Why trade for the sake of trading?

[Benched]

A) Has Tuuka Rask's stock dropped enough to take a run at him in Boston?

B) Do we want him?

[ScorchyScorch]

I think Wideman peaked last year and probably won't come near 50 points again. But he's still good for 10 goals from your blue line. But we've already got guys that can/will in future offer what he does at that position, so trade him + a decent prospect for a 20 goal winger to add to the top 6 if you can find that.

People mentioned Skinner. I would absolutely trade for him because he has 30 goal potential and although hasn't shown it in recent times, it seems to me it's a case of a young skilled player stagnating on a team that isn't going anywhere. A change of scenery can do great things for players. See: Turris, Myers.

[Imported_Aussie]

Wideman with salary retained may get a better deal. However the second year of that deal will scare some teams. The Flames may need to take back a contract with an extra year on it, which they can deal with next offseason.

Russell won't get as good a return, and I feel the Flames may have a higher internal valuation of Russell than what he would get on the open market. However I would hesitate to re-sign him based on how the team is going now, as he is at best a #4 D, at worst would end up being a big cap hit on the 3rd pairing

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Benched

A) Has Tuuka Rask's stock dropped enough to take a run at him in Boston?

B) Do we want him?

A) Maybe
B) Yes

[goodyear]

Originally Posted by Benched

A) Has Tuuka Rask's stock dropped enough to take a run at him in Boston?

B) Do we want him?

Dougie and Freddie Hamilton for Tukka Rask

Boom

[ScorchyScorch]

Oh man, Tukka Rask or Mike Smith on this team would accomplish great things in the next few years.

As ####y a start as it's been, I'm sure a lot of starter quality goalies stuck behind declining or mediocre teams would love to come take over the crease here. Yes, the present situation looks awful, but the team isn't playing near its potential, and you know the future is bright. And not in the delusional oilers sense.

[Harry Lime]

If the opportunity is there, trade them both.

Nakladal is NHL ready.
Wotherspoon/Kulak/Morrison are all knocking on the door.
The top three are cemented.
Smid and Englland arn't going anywhere.

If you can turn Russell and Wideman into any kind of asset, you go ahead and do it. Brodie is due back as soon as this weekend, according to the radio.

[JohnnyB]

Don't trade either. It's not the solution.