2015-2016 Blue Jays Off-Season Thread

[The Big Chill]

This is extremely disappointing. It's hard to believe that we wouldn't be giving AA a package that he would be happy with.

[Caged Great]

Shapiro apparently wants veto power, which AA did not agree to.

It wasn't about $$ as far as I know.

It is interesting that the Jays brought in one of the biggest penny pinchers to be the team president. Most Jays fans will walk away again if they decide to not re-invest some of their profits from the past few months. It would be an insanely stupid idea.

[Caged Great]

In their only meeting, Shapiro scolded AA and the rest of the staff for dealing so many prospects at the deadline.

That's why AA left. Did something to put the team in a playoff push and gets berated by the new guy for dealing from an area of depth.

Lacava (VP of Baseball Ops) and Minasian (director of scouting) are also looking to leave pronto as well.

[Caged Great]

To me, that means that the Jays are going to cut their payroll. The only reason why you'd be concerned with trading some young guys that aren't that good is if you're wanting those guys to take spots in the MLB.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

To me, that means that the Jays are going to cut their payroll. The only reason why you'd be concerned with trading some young guys that aren't that good is if you're wanting those guys to take spots in the MLB.

Not sure they will, my guess Jays want a two tier system before trades, signings etc are completed.

i.e. like the Flames

AA wanted full power..

Not surprised at all with AA leaving

[Senator Clay Davis]

Gotta think Gibbons is now in danger as well. New GM and President will probably want their guy.

[Caged Great]

Manny Acta come on down....

Former coach with Cleveland knows some of the Jays players already.

[ClubFlames]

Disappointing news. AA probably also realized that no way Rogers is gonna give him the flexibility to sign Price or keep the team competitive and he didn't wanna be in the crosshairs again in Canada.

Good luck to AA and thanks again for this season.

[Roof-Daddy]

What an organization.

Just terrible.

[flambers]

Few really interesting articles on TSN

First Link, summarizes all of AA trades....

http://www.tsn.ca/anthopoulos-hits-and-misses-1.383128

Second Link summarizes contract talks briefly

http://www.tsn.ca/jays-offered-antho...ource-1.384678

[Caged Great]

Apparently Law is going off on Rogers for this whole situation.

Here's a summary

- Doesn't think Shapiro was hired to replace Anthopoulos, but thinks Rogers expected it.
- Notes that Cleveland is a strong process oriented organization, but has not been successful at all. He would have brought in someone from a more successful organization.
- Thinks that criticizing Anthopoulos' trade record is way off base and incorrect. All trades this year were huge successes.
- Doesn't expect further investment from ownership when it comes to big name pitchers.
- Confirms with industry sources that Shapiro was highly critical of AA's trades at the deadline.
- Anticipates a possible tear down of the existing roster and thinks that it would be a disastrous decision.
- Expects Gibbons to be fired, mentions Eric Wedge. (oh no!)

[Caged Great]

This could be the start of a very off putting off season for Jays fans

[Scornfire]

Ugh, what the #### rogers, just what the ####

[Senator Clay Davis]

Rogers gonna Rogers. TSN can't wait to rip them I bet.

[chummer]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Rogers gonna Rogers. TSN can't wait to rip them I bet.

All of Canada can't wait to rip them.

[jschick88]

What a gut wrenching feeling. Not the way I wanted to start my day.

[jschick88]

I don't blame AA if he didn't have full control.

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
Sources: #BlueJays offered Anthopoulos long-term contract. His departure is not over terms or money.

If not over money, Anthopoulos’ departure almost certainly linked to changing dynamic of #BlueJays’ front-office with Shapiro’s arrival.

Shapiro influence expected to be more on business. But Anthopoulos might have balked if he perceived that influence extending to baseball.

[bluejays]

I seen Friedman's tweet and thought it was most interesting. It said that he thought Shapiro was brought in assuming the Jays weren't going anywhere and AA wouldn't be brought back. That was before all the big deals. So AA makes huge deals and it changes his status completely.

Rogers always fing up. Hope they get torn a new one for this debacle.

[SportsJunky]

Meh, doesn't bother me. I do like AA for the most part and I think he deserved a reward for the position he put the team in at the deadline. He worked very hard on those deals. But...it's a business and it's Shapiro's right to put conditions in place if he feels Anthopoulos needs those conditions. AA will be fine and the Blue Jays might be better off with some change anyway. Gibbons is next I'm sure.

Good luck to you Alex.

[Tyler]

Good morning guys let's talk ab... wait, what happened?