Never. The guy is a more careful spot-picker than Bieksa. Fight card consists of guys like Stillman, Crosby, this past year dropped the gloves on Monahan.
Monahan is built like a tank though I think he would give Ference trouble even though hes a star
Who cares about all the past things Ference did, for the most part he was well respected by teams and fans (especially here). The "Stempniak bead down" come on, this is a low even for you. What you're saying is that if you throw a clean hit, you have to fight? Ference knew what he was doing when that happened, he was fighting someone smaller then him who isn't a fighter just to prove he's "a big man" it only proved that he's a chicken $&!+ who goes after smaller non-fighters. It would be like Gaudreau fighting a 5 year old to prove he's tough. It doesn't prove anything except you're a better fighter than the person you just fought (and in Ference's case, it's someone who doesn't fight but gets a lot more points and is a better player).
Context on Ference:
He's a cowardly feminine hygiene product who'll fight people smaller than him and now he's the captain (for now) of our hated rival.
You are just so full of it.
Ference from nhl.com 5-11 189 Stempniak 5-11 196
There was a stretch of 18 games that Stempniak was a better player than Ference other than that Ference would be better for the other 880 regular season games and especially his 120 playoff games.
come on now.... Ference is a lot tougher than stempniak and it's not even close. Stempniak doesn't fight, he'll give clean hits and play somewhat physical but he's not a fighter, ference has fought before. Regardless, Ference pretty much dropped the gloves and started punching stempniak before he could even react. Real tough guy....
As for being the better player, I guess it's a mater of opinion. Ference is a good bottom pairing guy and a terrible top 4 guy. Stempniak is a good third line guy maybe a second line guy in a pinch. They're 2 different players.
I loved what ference did for the Flames while he was here and his 30 something posts must have been some of the best words ever typed to make CP what it is... BUT now and in the past 2 years, I have very little respect hockey wise for ference. He signed with the oilers for big money to "lead" the team and he hasn't. He plays a b!t#* game by fighting guys who don't want to fight or have no business fighting and again....he's an oiler.
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come on now.... Ference is a lot tougher than stempniak and it's not even close. Stempniak doesn't fight, he'll give clean hits and play somewhat physical but he's not a fighter, ference has fought before. Regardless, Ference pretty much dropped the gloves and started punching stempniak before he could even react. Real tough guy....
As for being the better player, I guess it's a mater of opinion. Ference is a good bottom pairing guy and a terrible top 4 guy. Stempniak is a good third line guy maybe a second line guy in a pinch. They're 2 different players.
I loved what ference did for the Flames while he was here and his 30 something posts must have been some of the best words ever typed to make CP what it is... BUT now and in the past 2 years, I have very little respect hockey wise for ference. He signed with the oilers for big money to "lead" the team and he hasn't. He plays a b!t#* game by fighting guys who don't want to fight or have no business fighting and again....he's an oiler.
What!!!! Ference was #3 on the Flames in their SC run and was #4 on the Bruins SC team and #3 on the Bruins loser in the 2013 SC final
He has been a top 4 on a SC winner... I don't know what he would have to do to improve on that.
Ference signed with the Oilers as a 34 year old. He signed with the Oilers as his last big chance to make 3.25 M for 4 years.
Stempniak's NHL career seems to be over as a 32 year old.
Ference was good, pretty much as soon as he went to the oil he turned to turd. If we were taking about 04 ference it would be a different story. I'm talking about when the "beatdown" happened. Ference was clearly on the decline.
I'll try and go slow.... Ference from a long time ago was awesome. I liked him, I was sad to see him go.
Ference from the past 3 has been garbage. I don't like him, I don't respect him and I don't think he's good. He jumped Stempniak, not a ference from the past. There was no time traveling involved. Crappy ference jumped a player. It was a female dog move.
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I don't make a habit of watching the perpetual suck up north, but outside of this one incident against Stempniak what has Ference done to warrant the slagging? Legitimately curious.
EDIT: I mean, it would be a damn shame if that's the impression some Flames fans are left with. A single offense against a bit player that played a mere 160 games for Calgary (as opposed to Ference's contributions in the '04 run).
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Good on him I guess, still haven't forgotten his coward attack on Stempniak so he can go rot for all I care. He fits in on the greasers squad.
I think you need to get some tougher skin as a fan if the Ference / Stemp incident has you feeling this much venom towards him.
Basically a nothing play that isn't even worth talking about at this point. Ference didn't like the Stemp hit, we think Ference jumped Stemp.................who cares? I bet Stemp doesn't even care at this point.
Ference never touched the puck before being hit by Stempniak.
I can see why he didn't like the hit.
Umm sorry really OT here, but can you explain your sig? Aren't you an Oilers fan? If so why would you be flaunting that, did you lose a bet with MMF? /OT
1) Ferrence is the only NHL player to post regularly on CP. He is a great reason that this site is so successful.
2) He was a great Flame In the 04 playoff run he and Warner were the Flames 3/4 D pairing .... Ference was making 500k
3) He was a prime example of signing for a hometown discount and getting treated poorly by the team. I guess that was a prime reason that the Flames had to give out so many NTCs after Ference. One of the worst trades in Flames History... Ference and Kobasew for playoff rental Stuart and Primeau.
Ference also reached out to me, via CP, when I was starting my photography career to come do a photo shoot for him. It was an awesome day hanging out with an NHLer watching him train and shooting the sh** about the team and other players.
We have kept in contact via email since then as well. I really wanted to photograph him when he had his day with the cup, but he decided to stay in Boston to "let the fans enjoy it". He's a really nice human being.
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Didn't he also two hand slash Johnny Gaudreau? Or am I thinking of someone else.
Regardless, I used to be a big Ference fan. But the guy has been a d-bag player ever since he played in Boston. I remember he purposely elbowed someone in the head and gave him a concussion, and during the interview afterwards, he was telling the reporter I don't know what you're talking about, I didn't elbow anyone". Uh, a no comment would have sufficed Andrew.
What!!!! Ference was #3 on the Flames in their SC run and was #4 on the Bruins SC team and #3 on the Bruins loser in the 2013 SC final
He has been a top 4 on a SC winner... I don't know what he would have to do to improve on that.
Ference signed with the Oilers as a 34 year old. He signed with the Oilers as his last big chance to make 3.25 M for 4 years.
Stempniak's NHL career seems to be over as a 32 year old.
I am pretty sure Ference was #4 on the 04 team and only because Lydman was injured in the playoffs. He was #5 before that. Also he didn't even progress to the SC Finals with the Bruins in 2013. Boychuck ,Chara and Seidenberg were all ahead of him on the depth chart that year.
I agree he stepped up in 04 along with a host of other guys, but he is what he is in his career - a #4-5 guy. 3 is a stretch imo.
Ference also reached out to me, via CP, when I was starting my photography career to come do a photo shoot for him. It was an awesome day hanging out with an NHLer watching him train and shooting the sh** about the team and other players.
We have kept in contact via email since then as well. I really wanted to photograph him when he had his day with the cup, but he decided to stay in Boston to "let the fans enjoy it". He's a really nice human being.
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Ference is 11th overall in games played by players from the 1997 draft.
Eight of the ten players ahead of him were drafted in the first round. Matt Cooke and Brian Campbell (both sixth round picks) are the only players from outside the first round ahead of Ference on the games played list.
11 of the 26 players drafted in the first round that year didn't reach 100 NHL games played. Three never made it into a single game.
The Flames got a grand total of 31 NHL games from the 12 players they drafted in 1997.
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Have to agree with Ricardo, a flames lays a beat down on a guy for a questionable hit, I'd love it.
Loved Ference as a Flames, loved him even more for beating the Canucks.
Sucks he's an Oiler but at least he isn't helping them much and if anything s causing them cap issues, so on the end he's still doing the Flames a favor.
The guy is born to be a flame, everything he does benefits the Flmes in some way.
Oh and Ference is not a spot picker. He took a hit he didn't like and did something about it. He fought Crosby but Sid was looking for it and Ference would be stupid not to take that trade off. As a Flame Ference fought a much bigger and true spot picker in Bieksa and held his own.
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Ference was about to play the puck. That's a completely legit hit. If he didn't like it - he shouldn't play hockey.
Whether you like it or not, a player who throws a big hit better be ready to defend himself. That's the unwritten code in the NHL and it happens all the time. When the Canucks didn't respond enough to Ferland, they were done.
