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Old 05-11-2015, 11:23 AM   #21
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One of the best thing about this season is we only have to wait seven weeks for the draft, instead of seven months.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:37 AM   #22
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You could make a smaller trade just to move up into to 11-13 spot tho.
Trading a second round pick in a deep draft to move up a few spots seems a bit steep. I suppose if there is a player available that the scouts absolutely love they could do it. But as SureLoss says, it takes two to tango and unless a team can be assured that the player they want will be around at 15, can't see it happening.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:43 AM   #23
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I would like to see the Flames move up and target a couple defensemen they absolutely covet, for instance...

Perhaps upgrade the 15th & 45th by packaging our other two 2nd's & 3rd's plus whoever else may hold value to another team... Wideman, Raymond, Stajan, Jones, Granlund, etc

Gaudreau - Monahan - Hudler
Bouma - Bennett - Colborne
Ferland - Backlund - Poirier
Klimchuk - Jankowski - Arnold

Brodie - Giordano
Russell - Hickey
____ - _____
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Old 05-11-2015, 12:47 PM   #24
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I was actually rooting for the Caps until I was reminded of the picks from this thread. GO RANGERS GO!!!
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Old 05-11-2015, 12:55 PM   #25
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Would love to see us find a way to get into the top 10. Our team definitely needs more elite level talent. We have great depth already. I think paying a steep price could be worth it.
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Old 05-11-2015, 01:03 PM   #26
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Wow, we pick 15th? I'm not sure I understand how that works. Does draft order only get impacted when you finish in the conference finals?
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Wow, we pick 15th? I'm not sure I understand how that works. Does draft order only get impacted when you finish in the conference finals?
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Old 05-11-2015, 01:11 PM   #28
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I can't see them moving up from #15, but with all those picks in the 45-60 range, they could move to late 1st round/early second round if a guy they like is falling into that range. But if nothing is happening in there, take BPA and then with a flush prospect pool, once the window to contention opens, start trading quantity for quality
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I would like to see the Flames move up and target a couple defensemen they absolutely covet, for instance...

Perhaps upgrade the 15th & 45th by packaging our other two 2nd's & 3rd's plus whoever else may hold value to another team... Wideman, Raymond, Stajan, Jones, Granlund, etc

Gaudreau - Monahan - Hudler
Bouma - Bennett - Colborne
Ferland - Backlund - Poirier
Klimchuk - Jankowski - Arnold

Brodie - Giordano
Russell - Hickey
____ - _____
When do you start your front office postion for the Oilers?
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I would like to see the Flames move up and target a couple defensemen they absolutely covet, for instance...

Perhaps upgrade the 15th & 45th by packaging our other two 2nd's & 3rd's plus whoever else may hold value to another team... Wideman, Raymond, Stajan, Jones, Granlund, etc

Gaudreau - Monahan - Hudler
Bouma - Bennett - Colborne
Ferland - Backlund - Poirier
Klimchuk - Jankowski - Arnold

Brodie - Giordano
Russell - Hickey
____ - _____
So aside from Hudler, your only veteran forward is the wizened Michael Backlund? What's your shutdown line -Backlund Ferland and Poirier??

You've got a 4th line with one NHL game among them (and two other guys with 4 and zero pro games between them).
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Old 05-11-2015, 01:22 PM   #31
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1st round pick BPA.

tons of D available through three rounds and the Flames can over load if they want to with all of those picks.
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Old 05-11-2015, 01:36 PM   #32
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24 of the top 75 NA rated players are D-men,
5 of the top 15 Euro rated players are D (3 of the top 6)

10 of the 75 are RW
6 of the 15 are RW

34/75 play the positions that the Flames need the most, while 11/15 Euros do. That means that around half of the draft pool in the top 3 rounds play positions that the Flames need.
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I would like to see all 6 picks be D and RWs
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Predicting a lot of sad faces on draft day when the Flames don't do exactly what each individual expects/wants to happen with our picks.
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Predicting a lot of sad faces on draft day when the Flames don't do exactly what each individual expects/wants to happen with our picks.
Happens every year.

They didn't pick Bill Bumface in the 6th round! I can't believe they took Peter McBusterson instead.
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Predicting a lot of sad faces on draft day when the Flames don't do exactly what each individual expects/wants to happen with our picks.
This is like announcing that grass will grow, the sky is blue, water is wet etc etc etc.
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Even more so this year was what I should have said.
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Old 05-11-2015, 02:24 PM   #38
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Hypothetical question time...

How much of a factor is the Russian factor to you?

The top Russian skater (i.e. player from Russia that is actually playing in Russia) LW/RW Denis Guryanov is considered a 1st round pick by hockeyprospect and iss.

Described as a big forward with Nichushkin like qualities (great skater and great shot) and plays with a nasty (that borderlines on dirty) temperament.

Assuming you are reasonably certain he is willing to come to North America, do you take him if he falls to 45? Are you willing to trade up to the early 2nd round to get him?

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=263964

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The Flames' 4th round picks over the last 7 years have yielded:

Brodie
Ramage
Arnold
Gaudreau
Kulak
Shore
Colborne

I can forgive one off year.
Its not the fact they don't have the 4th. It is who they traded it for.
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Old 05-11-2015, 02:31 PM   #40
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Its not the fact they don't have the 4th. It is who they traded it for.
Yeah, I got it. They traded for a guy that didn't work out. OMG.

That leaves them with 7 players in the system from the last 8 4th rounds (including this year). Including 2 star players.

There isn't another team in the league that would be even remotely close to that.
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