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[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Emergency response was 90 seconds. Transportation was an hour. I'm not saying I agree with Transplant, but there is still a difference.

Evacuation shouldn't take an hour. If it takes that long... Divert.

Halifax AA and air Canada rolled the dice and this time it came up bad. Not quite snake eyes but bad.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll

"Bob Cole" in the CBC comments section.

I'd take it with a massive grain of salt until the investigation is done by professionals.

Yeah all you can go in these cases is pictures really. And I've seen a picture of the passengers in a hangar with coffee and water on a table like it's a mini banquet.

Originally Posted by Resurrection

Evacuation shouldn't take an hour. If it takes that long... Divert.

Halifax AA and air Canada rolled the dice and this time it came up bad. Not quite snake eyes but bad.

To be fair, all indications to this point are that nobody "legally" rolled the dice. Common sense is up for grabs, however. Maybe some rules should be changed.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

Why would time of day matter?

Are their planes landing? If so emergency response should be no where near 1 hour. If no emergency response is available in that weather, divert elsewhere.

emergency vehicles (fire and rescue) were on scene in 90 seconds apparently...im talking about busses to shuttle the passengers. Are they considered "emergency" vehicles?

[Acey]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Are they considered "emergency" vehicles?

Not by YYC, I dunno about Halifax. Given that apparently none were on the field (or those that they had were unavailable) I'm gonna say no.

[Resolute 14]

The power outage and weather itself would have impacted that response as well.

[Ryan Coke]

Btw, crash isn't really an official term. It's an incident or accident. This was an accident.

And yes, AC is trying to spin the severity of it, as would any airline in all likelihood.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

Why would time of day matter?

Are their planes landing? If so emergency response should be no where near 1 hour. If no emergency response is available in that weather, divert elsewhere.

So every airport should have buses standing by 24/7; ready to go at a moment's notice? This would have required about 3 buses, so now we are talking about having 3 of them ready to go at a moment's notice. Who pays for that line item on the plane ticket? Also consider an accident this severe has never happened in Calgary as far as I can recall. So now we are talking about increasing the cost for something that doesn't happen often, and really only was an inconvenience.

That person was just in a plane crash so bad that the plane will never fly again. I agree the delays were inconvenient and the passengers should receive some sort of significant compensation. However requiring an airport to have an expensive standby just in case is a poor use of money.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by ken0042

Also consider an accident this severe has never happened in Calgary as far as I can recall.

Just one - on its departure roll, a Pacific Western 737 had a catastrophic engine failure resulting in a fire that consumed the aft of the aircraft.

[Acey]

They hit the localizer antenna array - orange posts looking things at the end of the runway. You've probably seen YYC's driving by it on McKnight.



Provides lateral guidance for low visibility landings. Interesting that the very thing that is supposed to help in low visibility like last night is the thing that took them out.

[Peanut]

TSB said the plane initially landed 335m short of the runway. Whoops.

[Fozzie_DeBear]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Emergency response was 90 seconds. Transportation was an hour. I'm not saying I agree with Transplant, but there is still a difference.

Perhaps the airport not having power slowed things down a bit. Honestly...a person just narrowly avoided dying and they are complaining that public transit took too long? SMH

[wooohooo]

Originally Posted by Acey

Not really. By this time last year MH370 was already lost (which alone is more than all lives lost so far this year combined). It's highly unlikely that this year will reach 2014's fatality count, which was the worst since 1996 when they had 300+ die in a midair, TWA 800 exploding, and the Ethiopian hijacking.

Sorry I meant the past year...

[Kavvy]

Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear

Perhaps the airport not having power slowed things down a bit. Honestly...a person just narrowly avoided dying and they are complaining that public transit took too long? SMH

err Public transit?

I think we have a general expectation in Canada that when our plane clips powerlines at a major Canadian airport, and we are forced to evacuate, we aren't left out in the cold for an hour.


I don't think that's unfair, lucky to be alive or not.

Hopefully the powerlines being hit had something to do with the delay, and we will have a lesson learned for airports, and can fix for next time, one which involved no lives loss.

[Bigtime]

It will be interesting to see which holes of Swiss cheese lined up for this accident.

[Ryan Coke]

While it is unreasonable to expect busses available 24/7, perhaps they should have been using whatever vehicles they had to shuttle people to a safe and warm area. It would be pretty sad if people survived a plane crash but were getting frostbite and hypothermia waiting to get to safety in the airport.