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Old 02-24-2015, 10:36 AM   #21
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I used to be allergic to strawberries, so my parents force fed me strawberries until I stopped being allergic.

Now I can eat them without any issue. With that said, it sounds to me like the peanut allergy thing is much more severe and could kill you.
There has been studies showing small amounts of peanuts could eventually make the allergy pass. Also I've heard of a patch that helps with peanut allergies. We lucked out our kids are not allergic to anything, my best friend is allergic to peanuts and his sister to eggs.
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Old 02-24-2015, 10:37 AM   #22
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I will have to read the study but does it divide the groups into parents with Peanut allergies already and the general public.?

I remember reading some research somewhere that in families with peanut allergies it was important to avoid the introduction early but in other groups it didn't matter.
The study was on high risk patients for peanut allergy.
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At 1.5 years my wife gave our son a taste of peanut butter.....he was in the hospital within the hour. His face looked like he had gone a couple rounds with Mike Tyson.
My son has a peanut and egg allergy. Just friendly FYI advice to the new parents out there, never experiment with peanut butter by actually feeding it to your child/baby if any allergy is suspected or possible. Rub a small (pea sized amount) on their skin (like the lower back) then wait 30 minutes and watch them closely with infant Benadryl handy.

If there is no rash or reaction, then move on to feeding them a small taste. If there is any reaction then discontinue, don't try and force them to get over it. See your pediatrician and get advice. Ours said to wait until another allergy test was done later this year.

To be honest we gave our son peanut butter by accident and learned the hard way like you did rotten. Then got the advice after the fact from the doctor. One of the man things you never are told as a new parent.
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I will have to read the study but does it divide the groups into parents with Peanut allergies already and the general public.?

I remember reading some research somewhere that in families with peanut allergies it was important to avoid the introduction early but in other groups it didn't matter.
From what I heard on CBC this morning, might have mishead it, but I think parents of children who had peanut allergies didn't participate because of the risk to those children by having the peanuts around the house. They did excluded children who already had severe peanut allergies from the test.
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And that's why I put it in quotes, knew it wasn't the right word.

But the point remains, what better way for the body to learn to deal with such triggers than in utero, or early development.

I was just saying it seems like common sense to me, but maybe there are other factors and reasons.
The word you were looking for is desensitizing and the idea is immunological tolerance. For most individuals our immune system has learned to tolerate certain foreign allergens (i.e. the bodies immune cells are not capable of mounting an immune response to the foreign allergen). Unfortunately, for some people their immune system (over)reacts to these foreign allergens.

The immune system of a fetus develops early (9-10 weeks). The immune cells (B and T cells) are produced, however, the fetus is not exposed to an antigen stimulus so these cells remain immature. It is important to note that these cells are fully functional and early on the body learns to distinguish between self and non-self. Cells that might attack self are eliminated to avoid an autoimmune response. The fetus does obtain antibodies from the mother.

When the baby is born it is immediately exposed to a non-sterile environment. The immature immune system is ready to work to protect the body but it takes time. Thus, breast feeding is very important to an infant as the milk provides antibodies and complex sugars that can help prevent early infections.

As the body is exposed to certain antigens it needs to learn to deal with them. The mechanisms are complex but the body can differentiate foreign bodies such as microbes, proteins etc. Certain protein allergens (e.g. from peanuts) can be recognized by B cells which will produce antibodies and elicit an immune response. A common therapy to prevent this is to treat an individual with the specific allergen repeatedly to induce an allergen-tolerant state. As has been mentioned above this should be performed in a controlled setting with medical professionals.
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My son has a peanut and egg allergy. Just friendly FYI advice to the new parents out there, never experiment with peanut butter by actually feeding it to your child/baby if any allergy is suspected or possible. Rub a small (pea sized amount) on their skin (like the lower back) then wait 30 minutes and watch them closely with infant Benadryl handy.

If there is no rash or reaction, then move on to feeding them a small taste. If there is any reaction then discontinue, don't try and force them to get over it. See your pediatrician and get advice. Ours said to wait until another allergy test was done later this year.

To be honest we gave our son peanut butter by accident and learned the hard way like you did rotten. Then got the advice after the fact from the doctor. One of the man things you never are told as a new parent.
My step-daughter (Alina), now 9 years old, has a severe peanut allergy. Before I met her Mum/my wife, Alina's allergy (at the age of 1 1/2) became apparent when she came in contact with it at Southland Leisure Centre, where my wife was working at the time. Her condition deteriorated rapidly, the point where she was swollen and blue/barely breathing. My wife realized what was happening and told one of the ladies working there that she needed an epi pen immediately, to which they said they weren't legally allowed to do (which is true).

Thankfully my wife was an employee there and knew where one was. She essentially broke into an office to get it and used it on Alina. Once she got to the hospital, the doctor told her she no doubt saved her life. I cannot even imagine going through that. Had my wife not known where that epi-pen was, I would not have a step-daughter.

We plan on getting her tested again soon to see if she's still allergic, but for my other children, we do the exact same thing you mentioned Old Dutch...start by rubbing it on their skin. Definitely not a good idea to just go ahead and roll the dice by feeding them peanuts right away.

Man I miss peanut butter...and contrary to what my wife tries to tell me, almond butter is NOT the same.
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Man I miss peanut butter...and contrary to what my wife tries to tell me, almond butter is NOT the same.
My son loves this stuff. Honestly I can't tell the difference (but I never ate much peanut butter anyways)

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http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2015...y-clean-dishes

Could using a dishwashing machine increase the chances your child will develop allergies? That's what some provocative new research suggests — but don't tear out your machine just yet.
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Or....it'll kill them. Either way....
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My son loves this stuff. Honestly I can't tell the difference (but I never ate much peanut butter anyways)



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Is that better than NoNuts? I tried this stuff made from peas, but it is really way too sweet, and the texture is off.
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Nurses have been recommending no peanuts until over one
Bad Nurses.

I spoke to nutritionist when my first was born basically said they are people, that are at greater risk if they get something. So she said they can eat anything you eat, you just need to wash, handle & prepare it safely. (The one exception she gave me was avoiding unpasteurised honey). It is the only dietary advice that seemed to sync up with my instincts on commonsense.
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As soon as my daughter came off breast milk I fed her peanut butter. My wife looked at me in horror when I did it, but a peanut allergy didn't even cross my mind. Clueless dad I guess.....

In other news, due to consistent exposure my daughter is immune to reactions from dog food, toilet water, crib paint, dog water and stale food left to ripen under a couch. Science!
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Is that better than NoNuts? I tried this stuff made from peas, but it is really way too sweet, and the texture is off.
Never tried NoNuts, but this is what they serve at my Son's Daycare. That is how we got to trying it. I honestly cannot tell the difference with Wow Butter, it actually is a pretty good product.
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The home chemist part of me wants to know if there is something in the peanuts themselves that can be extracted and removed or somehow "disabled" so allergies aren't triggered. Kind of like the de-caffeination process of coffee beans. I am sure this wouldn't go over well with the anti-GMO crowd, but holy.. you'd be rich.
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