Granlund the odd man out?

[savardandjokinen]

Why are we worrying about granlund already? I'd prefer to move stajan first and granlund is still young with better trade value in a couple years.

[djsFlames]

By the time he's Backlund's age, he'll could very well be a slightly better version of him.

So...No. It's Stajan who'll be the odd man out before any of our kids.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Max Reinhart IMO isn't good enough at any part of the game to be a mainstay NHL player. He's never the team's first choice for a call up and given that he's one of the older prospects in the system that's probably working against him.

I put him ahead of Jankowski and Arnold.

I don't disagree with what you're saying but if we are including Janko and Arnold in the convo, we have to include Max.

He could be the exact player dangled and packaged for a blue chip dman...

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

The one team that potentially believes Granlund has more value than others in the league is Minnesota because of the presence of his brother.

They have a problem in net as well.

Would we be interested in moving Granlund and Hiller in a package that would net us something along the lines of Blum, Folin, and Backstrom? Backstrom has one more year after this one, the same as Hiller. Blum and Folin would finally make our bottom 4 defensemen expendable, a luxury we don't have at the moment.

I don't put out many trade proposals, but the first thing I thought of when a saw Minnesota's goalie problems wasn't "Ramo and Hiller", but rather "Granlund".

Without knowing the Wild's center depth or who Folin is, this makes a lot of sense.

Contrary to many others, I think Stajan is a perfect 4th line C for this team moving forward and a great mentor for the kids. I would say that Granlund doesn't bring much that we don't already have in Backlund who is a great 3rd line C on our future contending team....with Monahan and (hopefully) Bennett at 1-2 we are set down the middle. If Granlund can't convert to RW he gan'

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

I put him ahead of Jankowski and Arnold.

I don't disagree with what you're saying but if we are including Janko and Arnold in the convo, we have to include Max.

He could be the exact player dangled and packaged for a blue chip dman...

Arnold isn't even in the picture IMO as if he makes the NHL it won't be with the Flames. Jankowski isn't going to be a pro for a few yeas so I consider him more long term project than prospect eligible to play in the next season or two.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by heep223

Without knowing the Wild's center depth or who Folin is, this makes a lot of sense.

Contrary to many others, I think Stajan is a perfect 4th line C for this team moving forward and a great mentor for the kids. I would say that Granlund doesn't bring much that we don't already have in Backlund who is a great 3rd line C on our future contending team....with Monahan and (hopefully) Bennett at 1-2 we are set down the middle. If Granlund can't convert to RW he gan'

Christian Folin is basically this years Danny DeKeyser. He came out of the college ranks as an All-Star, and basically looks like a balanced all round minutes eater. Jonothan Blum fell out of favour, but I'm not exactly sure why, considering he was highly thought of a one time. Backstrom is a backup at this stage in his career.

I wonder if this is an opportunity to give the Wild an upgrade in goal and C/wing in order to pluck a prospect like Folin out of there. We may be overspending, but there are ways to balance out a trade. No other team would give us value on Granlund like they would.

[Enoch Root]

The fact that they are brothers is irrelevant. GMs are not going to take a lesser talent, simply because he is related to another player.

NHL hockey is big business, with annual budgets in the nine digits. They employ teams of pro and amateur scouts, along with full management hierarchies. They are fully aware of the value of players and don't acquire players without thoroughly researching and scouting them.

No team is going to pick up a guy, or pay more for him, because of his last name.

[Harry Lime]

They thoroughly scouted both Granlund brothers, because they both played for the same teams, and frequently on the same lines, before they were drafted by their respective clubs. The only team in North America that knows more about Marcus Granlund is Calgary.

Also, there is proven chemistry between the brothers when put on the same line, where Marcus plays the wing. These two are closer in respect to the Sedins than the Staals, in terms of being complementary players.

I understand what you are saying, in instances when a brother is picked up to play with a clubs affiliate as a negotiation technique when dealing with a core player, but in this case Marcus actually holds quite a bit of value on his own. He is also an easy sell to a fan base that expects a lot out of their team, which is why this particular player holds more value to Minnesota, than say Dallas.