Condo - Tenant/Neighbour harassment

[Locke]

Originally Posted by habernac

Still sounds like harassment

And bullying.

Other than legal options it sounds like turnabout is fair-play.

[Hessen]

There must be something the police can do/say especially if they are being sent to the property numerous imes for unfounded reasons. Also if the police are being sent, it is due to their "evidence?" so you should be able to hit them with harrasment as well.

[Regular_John]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

Ah okay, that makes sense (unfortunately). I wish Calgary bylaw was that committed to responding to these things. A few people in our complex have made an effort to stop all the illegal dumping happening with photos/video/license plates/etc. and condo management just shrugs while bylaw just points back to management. It's ridiculously frustrating and the people dumping just wave at these people recording them now.

Doh, I was under impression bylaw actually gave a damn about that.

[Wormius]

I'd suggest talking to the neighbour, and let him know if he drives your current tenant out, that you'll get the absolute worst a-hole to move in after who will really give him something to complain about.

[Sample00]

Originally Posted by Locke

And bullying.

Other than legal options it sounds like turnabout is fair-play.

you actually just gave me an idea.

We have an anti-bullying bylaw in town. I am going to check and see if that covers anything.

thanks

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Sample00

you actually just gave me an idea.

We have an anti-bullying bylaw in town. I am going to check and see if that covers anything.

thanks

http://www.edson.ca/town/bylaws

False Alarm Bylaw

The purpose of this Bylaw is to assist in the reduction of False Alarms requiring a Police response within the Town of Edson. The Town of Edson and the Edson RCMP detachment ask that all businesses and residents maintain their alarm systems to reduce the number of false alarm calls. False alarm calls also pertain to 911 calls. Please do not hang up if you have accidently called 911. Instead notify the operator of your mistake. Every 911 hangup must be treated with urgency and be investigated to ensure there is no actual emergency. False alarms calls can be costly and potentially dangerous as it can take manpower away from an actual emergency call.
The fine for a Police response to a False Alarm where in any twelve month period has generated more than one false alarm, without reasonable effort to ensure it is not a false alarm is $200.00 per response.
For a complete review of this Bylaw please reference the link below:
Bylaw No. 2104 - False Alarm Bylaw

I wonder if this would be helpful as well.

[Sample00]

I think I got something here...please feel free to chime in.

This Bylaw was passed to discourage Bullying and Fighting in public places within the Town of Edson. Some facts about this bylaw are the following:

No person shall:

participate in a fight;
encourage other persons to fight;
video, record, photograph or distribute any video, recording or other photograph of any person involved in a fight for any purpose other than documenting the breach of this bylaw or other law applicable in the Province of Alberta.
bully another person in any public place;
bully another person through written or electronic communication;
encourage or promote another person to engage in acts of bullying
Any person that contravenes any provision of this Bylaw is guilty of an offense punishable on summary conviction and liable for a fine up to:

$250.00 for first offense,
$500.00 for second offense if committed within a twelve month period of first offense,
$1000.00 for a third offense if committed within a twelve month period of the first offense.
For a complete review of the Bylaw please reference the link below:

Bylaw 2084 - Regulate Conduct in Public Place (Bully Bylaw)

[Sample00]

hmm..maybe not. I think that applies to text messages and the like...

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Sample00

I think I got something here...please feel free to chime in.

This Bylaw was passed to discourage Bullying and Fighting in public places within the Town of Edson. Some facts about this bylaw are the following:

No person shall:

participate in a fight;
encourage other persons to fight;
video, record, photograph or distribute any video, recording or other photograph of any person involved in a fight for any purpose other than documenting the breach of this bylaw or other law applicable in the Province of Alberta.
bully another person in any public place;
bully another person through written or electronic communication;
encourage or promote another person to engage in acts of bullying
Any person that contravenes any provision of this Bylaw is guilty of an offense punishable on summary conviction and liable for a fine up to:

$250.00 for first offense,
$500.00 for second offense if committed within a twelve month period of first offense,
$1000.00 for a third offense if committed within a twelve month period of the first offense.
For a complete review of the Bylaw please reference the link below:

Bylaw 2084 - Regulate Conduct in Public Place (Bully Bylaw)

This seems to apply, no?

Bullying
3. (1) No person shall bully another person in any public place.

[ken0042]

Can't your tenant ask for a restraining order; based upon the harassment and/or stalking?

[Hockeyguy15]

Is there anything the neighbour does that is not allowed by the condo bylaws? Leave Christmas lights up, wrong type of screen door, pets, items on his deck that are prohibited? Anything that you can lodge a complaint about?

I know it is childish to fight complaint with complaint, but it might give some satisfaction if you make his life difficult in return.

[Mazrim]

Aren't they technically bullying your tenant in a public place? That would meet one of the conditions.

Originally Posted by jaydorn

Doh, I was under impression bylaw actually gave a damn about that.

Only time it worked was with renovators doing 3 units at the same time and using the dumpsters for all their construction waste.

[Sample00]

We actually tried that Ken. No luck. Videotaping and photography takes places from inside their home to the outside. Sadly, its perfectly legal.
And legally speaking, my tenant is not allowed to sit on his patio or front step and consume a beer. The odd thing is..tell me someone who doesnt do that as long as you're being decent about it.
Noise level...very subjective, right?

[Minnie]

At this point, if selling isn't an option, I think I'd check with a lawyer as to what your legal recourse can be. Can the neighbor be served with a cease and desist in regards to harassing the/any tenant(s)? That sort of thing. I would consult the lawyer simply because the police have advised you not to contact the neighbor, so you want to be on the complete up and up with this. I'm also a bit surprised that the police aren't getting on the neighbor's ass for these nuisance calls.

What a pain the ass for all of you. Hate stupid neighbors like that. Completely ruin a community.

[Sample00]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Is there anything the neighbour does that is not allowed by the condo bylaws? Leave Christmas lights up, wrong type of screen door, pets, items on his deck that are prohibited? Anything that you can lodge a complaint about?

I know it is childish to fight complaint with complaint, but it might give some satisfaction if you make his life difficult in return.

OHH, how we've tried to find something..anything...like i said, the guy is smart.

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

Find a tenant of equal or greater annoyance than him. Put cameras on the front lawn, stream the antics on YouTube, become a viral hit. Then profit.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Sample00

And legally speaking, my tenant is not allowed to sit on his patio or front step and consume a beer.

Is this a Condo "law" or a bylaw?

[habernac]

so happy I have good neighbours when reading threads like this.

[GGG]

Find something he does that no one else does, Change your bylaws to prohibit it. Fine him for breaching the bylaws.

Outside of that false police reports and complaints at some point has to constiture harassment.

[Sample00]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Is this a Condo "law" or a bylaw?

bylaw from what I understand.

i'll double check.