There are probably more neighbourhoods in Canada where it is more dangerous to be a white person walking around at night than a non-white person when it comes to threats of violence or actual violence.
Greetings, unsubstantiated speculation posing as fact! It's nice to see you again. How's that xenophobic, quasi-racism thing going for you?
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There are probably more neighbourhoods in Canada where it is more dangerous to be a white person walking around at night than a non-white person when it comes to racially motivated threats of violence or actual violence.
Haha! That's just so not true
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Greetings, unsubstantiated speculation posing as fact! It's nice to see you again. How's that xenophobic, quasi-racism thing going for you?
I'm just saying probably, because I am not motivated to "prove" it (I doubt it can be proven). Just from my own experience of living in non-white areas of this country.
I have been threatened with death a few times in the past for doing nothing than existing in those areas. While I know many non-white people who have to had to put up with rude comments from whites a lot, the actual mobbing of them is something that is no longer tolerated. This is not true for white people that work on reserves or in some neighbourhoods in Toronto. When I reported it the police, their response was; "Well, you shouldn't be here". It's hard for me to imagine that a black person would get that same response from the police this day in age.
The funny thing about life experience is that it doesn't link to the internet. I suggest you go get some of your own.
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Don't understand how this is essentially started because someone referred to Iginla as a "black kid"
So he mentioned he's black? So what? There's no hatred in that.
Just don't get it. And maybe that's just it, as a white guy I don't get it. But I still don't care. My shirt is red, the sky is blue, Iginla is black. So the eff what?
Don't understand how this is essentially started because someone referred to Iginla as a "black kid"
So he mentioned he's black? So what? There's no hatred in that.
Just don't get it. And maybe that's just it, as a white guy I don't get it. But I still don't care. My shirt is red, the sky is blue, Iginla is black. So the eff what?
Yeah, this is pretty much where I'm at as well.
Obviously it's not that simple. I think there just may not have been enough time for all the hate to dissipate as there are still people alive that lived through segregation and grew up with parents that were racist etc.. But it's tough to say that as there is obviously racial tensions that go back way further that still havent been weaned out.
Maybe people will always find a way to hate each other. Which is a sad thought.
I'm just saying probably, because I am not motivated to "prove" it (I doubt it can be proven). Just from my own experience of living in non-white areas of this country.
I have been threatened with death a few times in the past for doing nothing than existing in those areas. While I know many non-white people who have to had to put up with rude comments from whites a lot, the actual mobbing of them is something that is no longer tolerated. This is not true for white people that work on reserves or in some neighbourhoods in Toronto.
The funny thing about life experience is that it doesn't link to the internet. I suggest you go get some of your own.
The funny thing about anecdotal evidence is that it's usually rife with confirmation bias and mostly inaccurate.
I'm not saying there aren't hate-crimes perpetrated by minorities. I've been targeted by aboriginals in downtown Calgary, but you're original statement was pretty absurd.
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The funny thing about anecdotal evidence is that it's usually rife with confirmation bias and mostly inaccurate.
I'm not saying there aren't hate-crimes perpetrated by minorities. I've been targeted by aboriginals in downtown Calgary, but you're original statement was pretty absurd.
Also keep in mind that I am saying more neighbourhoods, not more instances. White people tend to stay away from where they know they are no welcome, and honestly have little reason to go there anyway. There is a voluntary segregation in that respect.
You see more reported instances against non-whites because it is simply impossible for them to remove themselves as mainstream Canada is white dominated still.
Honestly, can you think of any white neighbourhoods in Canada where it would be tolerated that a non-white person could be surrounded by whites and forced to leave, and where there wouldn't at least be serious criminal charges filed if it did happen? I can't see it.
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Also keep in mind that I am saying more neighbourhoods, not more instances. White people tend to stay away from where they know they are no welcome, and honestly have little reason to go there anyway. There is a voluntary segregation in that respect.
You see more reported instances against non-whites because it is simply impossible for them to remove themselves as mainstream Canada is white dominated still.
Honestly, can you think of any white neighbourhoods in Canada where it would be tolerated that a non-white person could be surrounded by whites and forced to leave, and where there wouldn't at least be serious criminal charges filed if it did happen? I can't see it.
Okay that makes a little more sense. I still disagree. I think there are numerous examples of white on non-white (particularly aboriginal) violence that has seen attempted cover-ups or no action taken by authorities.
Also keep in mind that I am saying more neighbourhoods, not more instances. White people tend to stay away from where they know they are no welcome, and honestly have little reason to go there anyway. There is a voluntary segregation in that respect.
You see more reported instances against non-whites because it is simply impossible for them to remove themselves as mainstream Canada is white dominated still.
Honestly, can you think of any white neighbourhoods in Canada where it would be tolerated that a non-white person could be surrounded by whites and forced to leave, and where there wouldn't at least be serious criminal charges filed if it did happen? I can't see it.
The issue though is that 'those' neighbourhoods are also probably unsafe for the minorities who live there as well.
The basis of privilege is that 'white folk' can easily avoid those circumstances (areas).
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So black people would end racism by walking around saying "Zip zop wop boopity bop" and living exclusively off a diet of Jello Pudding Pops, all while wearing ugly sweaters?
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They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk: Why you ain't, Where you is, What he drive, Where he stay, Where he work, Who you be... And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk. And then I heard the father talk.
Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth. In fact you will never get any kind of job making a decent living.
People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an education, and now we've got these knuckleheads walking around. The lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal. These people are not parenting. They are buying things for kids. $500 sneakers for what? And they won't spend $200 for Hooked on Phonics.
I am talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit. Where were you when he was 2? Where were you when he was 12? Where were you when he was 18 and how come you didn't know that he had a pistol? And where is the father? Or who is his father?
People putting their clothes on backward: Isn't that a sign of something gone wrong? People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn't that a sign of something? Or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up? Isn't it a sign of something when she has her dress all the way up and got all type of needles [piercing] going through her body?
What part of Africa did this come from? We are not Africans. Those people are not Africans; they don't know a thing about Africa. With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap, and all of them are in jail.
Brown or black versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person's problem. We have got to take the neighborhood back. People used to be ashamed. Today a woman has eight children with eight different 'husbands' — or men or whatever you call them now. We have millionaire football players who cannot read. We have million-dollar basketball players who can't write two paragraphs. We as black folks have to do a better job. Someone working at Wal-Mart with seven kids, you are hurting us. We have to start holding each other to a higher standard.
The Bill Cosby quote in question which snopes designates as 'Correctly Attributed.'
Not to take anything away from Bill Cosby's experience as a black man growing up in the 1950s and 60s, but systemic inequality didn't end with Brown vs. the Board of Education. There range of issues he's speaking about this piece are indicative of larger class conflicts as well as racial conflicts, and that's if you don't consider racial conflict as a subcategory of class conflict (which I certainly do).
But that's really nice of Bill to let us whities off the hook like that.
I think referring to someone as the 'black person down the hall' certainly isn't inappropriate, but yah, some people will certainly think it is. I personally make an honest effort to learn people's names and get to know people. I would prefer to tell someone that it is the 'Ethiopian down the hall' they are looking for.
I personally don't care/get insulted (at this point in time) if someone is being racist, I think it points to their own shortcomings and it is more than apparent to other people as well. I always challenge them on it in a gentle way with the assumption they will read between the lines and realize how inappropriate they were. People that think someone deserves to be punched in the face due to what they deem a racist slur are kinda lame.
With that said, I don't often run into the KKK or someone of that ilk, my social circle may be a little tame.
The term "reverse racism" is ridiculous. It's just racism, there's no reverse about it. If somebody is treating another person differently based on their race or culture, then it's just plain ol' racism or discrimination. That's it.
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The term "reverse racism" is ridiculous. It's just racism, there's no reverse about it. If somebody is treating another person differently based on their race or culture, then it's just plain ol' racism or discrimination. That's it.
Yeah but like, the reverse of it is like, bad... man.
The term "reverse racism" is ridiculous. It's just racism, there's no reverse about it. If somebody is treating another person differently based on their race or culture, then it's just plain ol' racism or discrimination. That's it.
When minorities have more wealth and power than white people, when they systematically murder thousands/millions of white people, when they pay white people less than minorities for the same work, when they ensure that schools in "white neighborhoods" have less funding, when they disproportionately start punishing white people for minor drug offenses, etc, etc, etc. Then I'll worry that reverse racism is actually a major problem in this world.
Until then, I'm going to realize that as a white person, I have a whole lot of really nice privileges that minorities do not.
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One of my good friends is black, and he went through a stint where he needed somewhere to stay, so I let him live with me for 8 months. To paint the picture, this guy looks almost exactly like Don Cheadle, and gets asked at least once a week if he is him, the only thing to throw him off is the fact he is pretty built.
This guy, is probably the most hilariously racist person I know. Kinda in the Bill Burr / Louis CK way. Everyone was fair game, and blacks weren't off limits to him. I think that is the huge difference, to most black people with a sense of humour, everyone is fair game, themselves included, just look at how their comedians rip on themselves. They weren't hate motivated jokes, they were more "What a dumbass!" motivated. Some of the black jokes he told me were banning fuel on this forum, but in the right context, they were hilarious. It was never mean spirited, or cruel, is was straight up observational humour.
I think that is the biggest difference, so many jokes white people tell about blacks are motivated or seeded in hate. As a Jewish guy myself, I can appreciate a good "cheap Jew joke", but once you are making holocaust jokes like "how many jews you can fit in the ashtray of a Beetle" that is where the line is for me.
Also, no black people I have ever met, are offended by the term 'black'. I had a pretty in depth discussion about this with my friend one night. He said to me "Are you offended when you get called white? It's a loosely accurate physical description, not a slur."
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When minorities have more wealth and power than white people, when they systematically murder thousands/millions of white people, when they pay white people less than minorities for the same work, when they ensure that schools in "white neighborhoods" have less funding, when they disproportionately start punishing white people for minor drug offenses, etc, etc, etc. Then I'll worry that reverse racism is actually a major problem in this world.
Until then, I'm going to realize that as a white person, I have a whole lot of really nice privileges that minorities do not.
Wrong. Hate is simply hate. Minority or majority, racism is bad. I am not sure what privileges you speak of, but in my world when I look around my office it is pretty much a spectrum of every corner of the planet.
