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Old 08-09-2013, 09:32 PM   #21
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On the RFA grid the lowest rated players used to get signed to a 10%, 25% or 50%, for example an AHL player who is making 0.5 MIL could get resigned for 3 years at 0.75 MIL. Based on this grid are we saying we now would be signing that type of player for 1.5 MIL?
was about to ask the same question.
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Old 08-09-2013, 09:37 PM   #22
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Yeah you know that does seem a little screwed up doesn't it?
I'll look at it - but the RFA grid is fine for sure. I think we may need to adjust the UFA grid to address that. Thanks for raising it Doug.
It looks like the UFA grid needs to start at a low mark of 61 rather than 63
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Old 08-09-2013, 09:42 PM   #23
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Yup we got rid of the automatic percent raises
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Just wondering how that's going to work with the AHL cap considering now the minimum contract is 1 mil? Haven't really put any of the math together or anything though
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Old 08-09-2013, 11:14 PM   #25
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Ahlers make 10 percent of their cphl salary if rfa status
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Old 08-09-2013, 11:39 PM   #26
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I'm not sure if this is what Doug meant, but what he said got me thinking...
More of what I was thinking just so I'm clear, I'm talking more second contract guys, guys that are not elite players making close to cap limits regardless.

For example lets use Brandon Sutter who is a 24yr 71ov 3rd line player.. He is set to make between 4M to 5M depending on your choosing one year to three. Under this system stopping a 29yr old (71ov) from testing the free agency in the prime of his career would cost a 3yr year 4.5M contract max. It's actually more expensive to sign a RFA not yet hitting his prime then a resigning a 29yr UFA in his prime and blocking him from hitting the open market.

Under the old system Sutter would have been a 66ov player with the same grid option of 4-5M deal... but resigning his UFA counterpart would have a cap hit of 3yr @ 6M.

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1yr was 2M less
3yr was 1M less

right now a RFA at one season is only 500k less than resigning a UFA for 3yrs. We've reversed system

This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it will change the game. But as it stands right now a resigning your 29yr UFA player and preventing him from hitting the open market is less of a cap hit then resigning your RFA kids that will be hitting their prime after the 3yr deal.

This isn't a bad thing, just not sure if this was the intention of the league to lower the UFA grids because the end result will have an effect on the league (positive and negative depending on what one values)

Just to note, not bringing this up as picking it apart, right away I can advantages from this as well. I just wasn't sure if this was an intended change to the system or just an oversight and wanted to bring notice to it
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Old 08-10-2013, 05:31 AM   #27
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Great work with getting this all done. My RFA contracts are in. Thanks.

Just adding a minor outcome with upping the bottom end rfa's contracts, it'll make it significantly more difficult to have 25 players on your pro team, especially if freshly signed guys are 1 mil+.
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Freshly signed draftees still fall under drafted player entry contract rules
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Abd yeah Doug that is a valid issue to point out so we are revisiting the ufa grid
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Abd yeah Doug that is a valid issue to point out so we are revisiting the ufa grid
Just wondering if that is entirely necessary. You don't really see RFA players taking a haircut $ wise any more. Also, maybe we should reduce the RFA age to 26 like in the NHL?
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Freshly signed draftees still fall under drafted player entry contract rules
What about UFA guys that you'd sign that aren't in the system yet?
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What about UFA guys that you'd sign that aren't in the system yet?
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I only have a few RFAs who are in the AHL but are missing from the spreadsheet. Do you want me to email those names to the league?
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Sure or just assume they are below the minimum rating
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Sharks are in, anyone not on the list I just put Under 63.
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