Removing fluoride from water supply has increased cavities in kids

[CedarMeter]

I never liked the idea of drinking fluoride.

[Tiger]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Ok well this is dumb.

I don't have an issue with fluoride in the water and it does help

But kids get cavities not because of no fluoride but because of their diet.

SIMPLE

One of my previous dentist and I had a conversation about fluoride in water. She said you could see the trend in her kids she saw. lower income family had better teeth than higher income family (you could argue that the diet of higher income families are better or worse I guess most likely better). Said the trend was the kids that drank more bottled water (high income) had more cavities. But there isn't a real study on this that I know of.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by CedarMeter

I never liked the idea of drinking fluoride.

Yes I heard the voices too

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by Tiger

One of my previous dentist and I had a conversation about fluoride in water. She said you could see the trend in her kids she saw. lower income family had better teeth than higher income family (you could argue that the diet of higher income families are better or worse I guess most likely better). Said the trend was the kids that drank more bottled water (high income) had more cavities. But there isn't a real study on this that I know of.

Maybe you should have told her a lot of the bottled water comes from the tap and unless coca cola and other companies has it somehow removed then her argument is invalid.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

Maybe you should have told her a lot of the bottled water comes from the tap and unless coca cola has it somehow removed then her argument is invalid.

Thanks tips.

Does your massive information bank say whether the water taken from Municipal water supplies include fluoride?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Thanks tips.

Does your massive information bank say whether the water taken from Municipal water supplies include fluoride?

Dasani s(coke) bottles in calgary

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Thanks tips.

Does your massive information bank say whether the water taken from Municipal water supplies include fluoride?

You're welcome, tips.


http://www.oralanswers.com/2011/08/b...ater-fluoride/

The U.S. Department of Agriculture's study found that Dasani bottled water contains on average, 0.07 ppm fluoride, with values ranging anywhere from 0.02 to 0.19 ppm fluoride among the 20 Dasani water bottles that were tested.

Most popular bottled water brands contain fluoride.

[Canuck-Hater]

Shoddy journalism. That article didn't provide any statistics or evidence that could attribute the increase in cavities to water fluoridation. Lets get one thing straight, Sodium Fluoride (the stuff you find in toothpaste) is not the same as Fluorosilicic Acid (What is put in our water). A Harvard study has shown the fluoride in the water could reduce your IQ. http://digitaljournal.com/article/329487

Also loved the comment on CBC, pretty much sums up how I feel about water fluoridation: "Calgary flouridated the water at .8-1 ppm
Toothpaste is between 1000-1400 ppm
So about 1200 glasses of Calgary water is about the same as brushing your teeth once."

[Tiger]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

Maybe you should have told her a lot of the bottled water comes from the tap and unless coca cola and other companies has it somehow removed then her argument is invalid.

Say with a carbon filter... Because is there Chlorine in bottle water or is it filtered out?

[Canuck-Hater]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Yes I heard the voices too

Uh oh hes questioning something, better call him a conspiracy theorist right away!!!

[CaptainCrunch]

You know, I don't bother green texting everything.

Guess I need to be a little more blatent

"Yes I hear voices too"

That's a joke


:w 00t::w00 t: :w 00t::w00 t:

Better?

[Tiger]

Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater

Shoddy journalism. That article didn't provide any statistics or evidence that could attribute the increase in cavities to water fluoridation. Lets get one thing straight, Sodium Fluoride (the stuff you find in toothpaste) is not the same as Fluorosilicic Acid (What is put in our water). A Harvard study has shown the fluoride in the water could reduce your IQ. http://digitaljournal.com/article/329487

Also loved the comment on CBC, pretty much sums up how I feel about water fluoridation: "Calgary flouridated the water at .8-1 ppm
Toothpaste is between 1000-1400 ppm
So about 1200 glasses of Calgary water is about the same as brushing your teeth once."

Toothpaste helps the surface of the teeth. Drinking fluoridated water would help with roots etc, that are not exposed to toothpaste (unless you swallow the toothpaste).

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

You're welcome, tips.


http://www.oralanswers.com/2011/08/b...ater-fluoride/

The U.S. Department of Agriculture's study found that Dasani bottled water contains on average, 0.07 ppm fluoride, with values ranging anywhere from 0.02 to 0.19 ppm fluoride among the 20 Dasani water bottles that were tested.

Most popular bottled water brands contain fluoride.

So after massive filtering, they contain anywhere from 2% to 24% of what is usually found in fluoridated water supplies, which is already minuscule as to not be harmful to humans.

I'm still not seeing your point.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

So after massive filtering, they contain anywhere from 2% to 24% of what is usually found in fluoridated water supplies, which is already minuscule as to not be harmful to humans.

I'm still not seeing your point.

Try reading better than before being a dick. I didn't say it was harmful to humans.

I was just replying to the post Tiger made about his dentist saying that the reason the upper class kids had cavities was because they likely drank bottled water.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

Try reading better than before being a dick. I didn't say it was harmful to humans.

I was just replying to the post Tiger made about his dentist saying that the reason the upper class kids had cavities was because they likely drank bottled water.

Well if they're drinking bottled water that contains an ineffectual fraction of the fluoride required to combat cavities, then the anecdote is still likely correct.

[MrCallahan]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Beep beep beep beep

Conspiracy theorist detected.

I love how all these hilariously bad misinformation sites don't understand dosage.

haha! I wouldn't say that I'm a conspiracy theorist...you take the info for what it's worth, do your own research, and make your own judgement from what you find. Regardless, if all the affects of fluoride are positive, I'd rather take it in a supplement/diet form, rather than having it pumped into the water system.

[MRCboicgy]

I had my first tooth cavity in over 15 years last month, so it must be true, as I'm very anal about my oral upkeep.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by MrCallahan

haha! I wouldn't say that I'm a conspiracy theorist...you take the info for what it's worth, do your own research, and make your own judgement from what you find. Regardless, if all the affects of fluoride are positive, I'd rather take it in a supplement/diet form, rather than having it pumped into the water system.

Doing your own research isn't for me.

I'll leave all the research up to the researchers published in peer-reviewed journals.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Well if they're drinking bottled water that contains an ineffectual fraction of the fluoride required to combat cavities, then the anecdote is still likely correct.

Wow you went from hockey posts to soccer posts with how far you moved the goal posts.

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by MRCboicgy

I had my first tooth cavity in over 15 years last month, so it must be true, as I'm very anal about my oral upkeep.

There is a joke in there, about talking out your arse, lol. Not saying you are. It just amused me.


I've never quite understood the big brouhaha about flouride in the water. Big whoop. Seems stupid to remove it.