Save Dutch the Service Dog from Death [Read entire thread before signing petition]

[calgarybornnraised]

Signed and shared,that bitch should be the one put down.

[3 Justin 3]

Forget the Gaudreau Jihad.

This is a case where a true Jihad should take place.

Signed.

[pseudoreality]

There's got to be more to this story. What was the motivation for the beating? Why was the dog left with the former owner if she hated the dog so much.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by pseudoreality

There's got to be more to this story.

From the article:
Authorities said that the woman was breaking up a dogfight when the incident occured and according to her account, Dutch was the aggressor in the matter.

I still signed the petition. The dog was just being a dog. So unless Dutch was actually doing some serious harm to the other dog; the lady should have let it play out. Even if you do have to break up a dog fight; you want to establish control; not become another combatant for the dogs.

The lady made a mistake, and got bit. I've made mistakes with friends' dogs prior to getting my own, and have also been bit. As a human I have learned from those mistakes and I think I am now a better dog person for it.

[Canehdianman]

Much more to the story!

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...ong-dog-lovers

That paints a much more even handed story.

[Flamesoholic]

Signed and shared on Facebook. The wrong animal is going to be put down if you ask me. What the he!! is wrong with some people. Disgusting woman.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by pseudoreality

There's got to be more to this story. What was the motivation for the beating? Why was the dog left with the former owner if she hated the dog so much.

There are always two sides. The other side of the story in the local newspaper today at the link below:

First, one thing of note . . . . . the story indicates Dutch was trained as a service dog AFTER the incident in November. Ergo, he was not a qualified service dog at the time.

The woman, a former owner of Dutch, said this is what happened:

The Montrose Police Department and Montrose Animal Control say, however, that the woman was breaking up a dogfight in which Dutch was the aggressor: After hitting him failed to faze the dog, she grabbed the pole from a tiki torch to force him off the other dog, then dragged him into her home.

He bit the woman in her thigh as she was trying to clean blood from the fight off of him.

The bite sank to the bone, and she had to put her hands in his mouth to pry him off. When she retreated toward her bedroom, she tripped, and Dutch attacked again, biting her buttock, again penetrating to the bone, authorities said. When she tried to pry his jaws off her, Dutch bit her finger so hard it caused a compound fracture and severed an artery.

Dutch kept slamming his body into her bedroom door after she made it inside the room, bit furniture, and later attacked the other dog yet again, according to the police.

The woman's medical bill is about $24,000, Montrose Police Chief Tom Chinn said.

"She is fortunate to have escaped that attack with her life," said Animal Services Supervisor Mike Duncan. "She loved the dog, but she is very concerned for anyone who is going to be around that dog from now on."

http://www.montrosepress.com/news/ma...9bb2963f4.html

Cowperson

[pylon]

Um, how do I unsign a petition? The owners of Dutch should be politicians with their fact spinning ability. Sounds like Dutch and the owners are both a-holes.

[GreatWhiteEbola]

I should have read the entire thread, OUTRAGE!!

[flamesfever]

nm

[EVERLAST]

Nm

[CaptainCrunch]

I feel used, I sent this out to friends without waiting for the facts because it tugged at teh heart strings.

Next time I'll be a little more jaded and listen to the inner voice that tells me to make sure that I get both sides of the story

Lesson learned.

[Fozzie_DeBear]

Thanks for changing the thread title.

If this alternate version of the events is closer to the truth, I will so furious at Dutch's new owners.

#duped

[Devils'Advocate]

Humans are so finicky.

We hear one side and believe it to be the absolute truth.
Then we hear the other side and believe IT to be the absolute truth.

I'm with Gregory House. Nobody ever tells the truth.

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The latest I could find:
http://www.examiner.com/article/the-...an-s-dog-dutch

Dutch's owners have enlisted the help of a retired dog trainer to evaluate his behavior following the attack. According to the trainer, Carrie Williams, after a 3-day evaluation, she believes that he is a "sweetheart," and she stated:

"I truly believe this dog would not bite anyone unless he was provoked and felt like he was defending his life. Dutch was a joy to work with and a wonderful service dog with a great temperament."

...Those hoping to see the order for destruction overturned believe that the circumstances surrounding the attack need to be taken into account. Without a doubt, a dog who had just been involved in a serious dog fight, as well as on the receiving end of a beating, would be highly agitated and possibly, much more likely to bite.

So we have no evidence that Dutch was the aggressor against the pit bull save for the former owner's word. Rarely have I heard of a dog fight where the pit bull was the submissive victim, but I guess it could happen... So now, after a dog fight and being hit by a human and dragged violently by this human, the dog bit that human. I think in that heightened state of anxiety I think even the most even-tempered dog might be provoked to the point of biting.

So like all cases, the truth probably lies somewhere in between.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

Humans are so finicky.

We hear one side and believe it to be the absolute truth.
Then we hear the other side and believe IT to be the absolute truth.

I'm with Gregory House. Nobody ever tells the truth.

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The latest I could find:
http://www.examiner.com/article/the-...an-s-dog-dutch


So we have no evidence that Dutch was the aggressor against the pit bull save for the former owner's word. Rarely have I heard of a dog fight where the pit bull was the submissive victim, but I guess it could happen... So now, after a dog fight and being hit by a human and dragged violently by this human, the dog bit that human. I think in that heightened state of anxiety I think even the most even-tempered dog might be provoked to the point of biting.

So like all cases, the truth probably lies somewhere in between.

You are such an apologist it's not even funny.

The dog got into a fight then severely bit a human numerous times, something that would be verifiable by medical records. That dog is done in my eyes. Good night.

No dog should be allowed to show that sort of aggression to a human.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

So we have no evidence that Dutch was the aggressor against the pit bull save for the former owner's word.

Good point. Why don't we get to hear the dog's side of the story?

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

Humans are so finicky.

We hear one side and believe it to be the absolute truth.
Then we hear the other side and believe IT to be the absolute truth.

I'm with Gregory House. Nobody ever tells the truth.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
The latest I could find:
http://www.examiner.com/article/the-...an-s-dog-dutch


So we have no evidence that Dutch was the aggressor against the pit bull save for the former owner's word. Rarely have I heard of a dog fight where the pit bull was the submissive victim, but I guess it could happen... So now, after a dog fight and being hit by a human and dragged violently by this human, the dog bit that human. I think in that heightened state of anxiety I think even the most even-tempered dog might be provoked to the point of biting.

So like all cases, the truth probably lies somewhere in between.

Well except for the injuries induced by the former owner, I think it was a 24,000 dollar medical tab which tells me that it wasn't insignificant injuries.

I would like to see proof of the dog fight as in injuries to the other dog.

[Devils'Advocate]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Well except for the injuries induced by the former owner, I think it was a 24,000 dollar medical tab which tells me that it wasn't insignificant injuries.

I would like to see proof of the dog fight as in injuries to the other dog.

Oh, I believe that she was injured. I certainly believe the dog attacked her. I just think that a dog, if hit enough, will strike back at the person that hit it. Not just vicious dogs... almost any dog if hit enough will strike back.

[mrvee]

The dog made one mistake he missed her throat.Stupid dog.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

Oh, I believe that she was injured. I certainly believe the dog attacked her. I just think that a dog, if hit enough, will strike back at the person that hit it. Not just vicious dogs... almost any dog if hit enough will strike back.

Except and I don't know medical costs in the States that the injuries aren't consistent with a dog that bites to create space or scare off the woman, its more along the lines of a dog going to town and that's the concern now that both sides stories are coming out with the dog in the middle.

I'm not advocating putting the dog down, but I do think that we need to know more about what the judge heard because its pretty clear that the owners original story to the press to tug on the heart strings which put the judge in an incredibly unsympathetic light might have been dishonest and a slick public relations campaign. The same could be said on the other side but we don't know.