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Old 10-19-2016, 05:25 PM   #361
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Also ugly: yet another sub 0.900 game for a Flames goalie (one below 0.700). That is 3 of 4 below 0.900.
I wouldn't be too concerned about that average for Johnson as he's pretty sound in net. However, that stat is what I said about the Flames D - which really sucks right now and it sucked really bad for the first 30 games of 2015-2016 season. You can blame it on bad goaltending all you want, but we're seeing the same old bad defensive collapse that we saw last season and the Flames currently have two new goalies. Kind of makes you wonder if Ramo was even that bad as everyone had made it out to be and if Hartley should even be fired based on all the circumstances. The turnovers in the defensive and neutral zones are what's costing the Flames.
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I wouldn't be too concerned about that average for Johnson as he's pretty sound in net. However, that stat is what I said about the Flames D - which really sucks right now and it sucked really bad for the first 30 games of 2015-2016 season. You can blame it on bad goaltending all you want, but we're seeing the same old bad defensive collapse that we saw last season and the Flames currently have two new goalies. Kind of makes you wonder if Ramo was even that bad as everyone had made it out to be and if Hartley should even be fired based on all the circumstances. The turnovers in the defensive and neutral zones are what's costing the Flames.
Hartley shouldn't have been held responsible for the terrible goaltending - those were the goaltenders that he got to choose from, and only Ramo was 'decent' for a stretch until he got hurt.

Hartley should be held responsible for the defensive lapses. Defensive lapses are a symptom of coaching/systems more than anything - unless the defencemen are no good like Edmonton's anyways.

Hartley should or shouldn't be fired based on what you think was the (bigger) problem.
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