2009 NFL Regular Season Thread

[Pagal4321]

NYG @ MIN starts at 1:00 PM EST.

PHI @ DAL and GB @ ARI start at 4:15 PM EST.

[Montana Moe]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Saints DE arrested on DUI.



4:30 in the morning running around speeding while drunk? Nice discipline there. This is the kind of stuff that makes me wonder about that teams ability to deal with success....not that this may not be a completely isolated incident, but it raises question marks in my mind.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4779216

McCray is adamant that he was not drunk, he did admit to speeding. Much of the team was at the Lil' Wayne concert last night and likely at the afterparty until the early morning. Being out at 4:30 is not that uncommon in New Orleans since there is no last call.

As soon as you refuse the breathalyzer, you're arrested, and these guys are instructed to ALWAYS refuse the breathalyzer. I know its easy to use a "jump to conclusions mat" in situations like these, especially with NFL players. I'll wait to see how the blood test turns out.

[transplant99]

Being out at 4:30 is not that uncommon in New Orleans since there is no last call.

It should be for these guys though...when they are wanting to be considered an "elite" team but have dropped 2 in a row at home. That alone should have them re-focussing on what needs to be done, and being out at 4:30 AM speeding along the road and then refusing a breathalyzer (which makes zero sense if he hadnt been drinking) screams to me that it is clearly not a priority for some.

Either way, drunk or not, he isnt exactly displaying good decsion making, and that will eventually show up on the field at some point.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Montana Moe

As soon as you refuse the breathalyzer, you're arrested, and these guys are instructed to ALWAYS refuse the breathalyzer.

Out of curiosity how do you know they are instructed to do this and why would they be instructed to do so?

Seems like a good way to be found guilty.

Perhaps the laws/procedures are different in the States but every lawyer that I have heard talk about it has said to definitely not refuse the breathalyzer.

[Montana Moe]

Originally Posted by transplant99

It should be for these guys though...when they are wanting to be considered an "elite" team but have dropped 2 in a row at home. That alone should have them re-focussing on what needs to be done, and being out at 4:30 AM speeding along the road and then refusing a breathalyzer (which makes zero sense if he hadnt been drinking) screams to me that it is clearly not a priority for some.

Either way, drunk or not, he isnt exactly displaying good decsion making, and that will eventually show up on the field at some point.

I give them a smidge of leeway since they did clinch home field throughout the playoffs that night, and Tuesday is the day off for NFL players.

With that said, I'd agree about needing to refocus. McCray has always seemed like a bit of an outlier as far as the team concept goes, more of a "me" guy. There is no excuse for DUI, and I'm not defending what he did, you should be smart enough to call a cab or limo if you're a pro athlete and have had any alcohol that night. See: Donte Stallworth or Leonard Little.

Originally Posted by moon

Out of curiosity how do you know they are instructed to do this and why would they be instructed to do so?

Seems like a good way to be found guilty.

Perhaps the laws/procedures are different in the States but every lawyer that I have heard talk about it has said to definitely not refuse the breathalyzer.

I'll admit I can't say first hand that the Saints as a team instruct them to not agree to a breathalyzer, but the few college and professional athletes that I do know are instructed by their agents/handlers/union to never submit to a breathalyzer on scene. The portable breathalyzers policemen carry in their vehicles are known to read false positives and cannot be calibrated on scene, therefore will likely not stand up in court, but the player will always be judged in the public by that initial test.

It has always been recommended to me by policemen/attorneys I know, as well as my own labor union, to never submit to the test and always opt for the blood test at the station. It gives your body more time to process whatever alcohol, if any you have in your system, and is more accurate.

Perhaps that is different in the States than in Canada, and it is something that likely will not change until DUI is looked at more seriously.

DUI laws are a joke in much of the U.S. There are people here in Billings weekly that are arrested for their 6th, 8th, 10th DUI. they occasionally go through a 6 month treatment program and are released back on to the street. They simply drive without a license, and wait for the next slap on the wrist.

Bottom line, he shouldn't be close to even being caught in a situation where it could be implied, but these guys are targets, especially by the notably corrupt NOPD. I'll wait for the evidence and hope for the best, though it likely won't affect this season anyway.

[Pagal4321]

Giants placed RB Brandon Jacobs and DB Aaron Ross on IR

If the Vikings can't beat the freaking Giants, who have nothing to play for, I might just go hang my head in shame.

[burn_baby_burn]

Broncos vs Chiefs will feature a punting dual between brothers.

http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/1172

[burn_baby_burn]

Interesting read on the limitations of Kansas City Chiefs QB Matt Cassel.

http://kan.scout.com/2/932752.html

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn

Broncos vs Chiefs will feature a punting dual between brothers.

http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/1172

The Colquitt's are further cementing their legacy as the NFL's first family of 4th down. That is something that the dad and his two sons as well as one of their uncles would all play in the NFL, let alone all do so as punters.

I had noticed that Mitch Berger had been pretty brutal lately.

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

The Colquitt's are further cementing their legacy as the NFL's first family of 4th down. That is something that the dad and his two sons as well as one of their uncles would all play in the NFL, let alone all do so as punters.

Its a decent way to make a living.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn

Broncos vs Chiefs will feature a punting dual between brothers.

http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/1172

They finally got it right?

I thought Colquitt won the job in preseason. Kern was pretty good too, but I thought Colquitt was better. Then they cut Kern for freaking Mitch Berger who was awful. We finally got it right in week 17!

[Displaced Flames fan]

Lovely.

Drama in Dove Valley again.

McDaniels has benched Tony Scheffler for 'attitude problems' for the final game of the season...a must win game....and, due to a disagreement over the severity of a hamstring pull he has also benched Brandon Marshall.

Just when I thought things would be ok long term. They are going to lose this kid for nothing.

[transplant99]

The drama in Denver never seems to end...this is just bizzarro.


Sounds like Marshall didnt think he could play at any rate, so not sure what McDaniels thinks he is proving by "benching" him publically when he could of just de-activated him Sunday as an injured player.

Wow....i think my upset pick just got a better chance of happening.

[Flickered Flame]

Shanahan to get more than 50 mill from the Redskins?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...from-redskins/

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Flickered Flame

Shanahan to get more than 50 mill from the Redskins?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...from-redskins/

Dude has a gigantic house to pay for!

[Flickered Flame]

From Peter King's twitter:

SI_PeterKing
Now this is interesting. VERY interesting. Sean Payton told me today Drew Brees will be 3d QB Sunday--behind Brunell and Chase Danie

And a follow up tweet:

SI_PeterKing
Brees healthy. Payton feels he doesn't want to risk Brees against rejuvenated Peppers and Panther rush. Isn't as worried about O as we are.

[GirlySports]

Lamar Woodley cries conspiracy!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4782745

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Genius! Can't backfire!

The teams lose and Woodley says "told you", or the teams win and say "told you" to him, who doesn't care because they put his team in the playoffs.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Lovely.

Drama in Dove Valley again.

McDaniels has benched Tony Scheffler for 'attitude problems' for the final game of the season...a must win game....and, due to a disagreement over the severity of a hamstring pull he has also benched Brandon Marshall.

Just when I thought things would be ok long term. They are going to lose this kid for nothing.

Ugh...I don't even know what to say...

[debil]

Originally Posted by Pagal4321

If the Vikings can't beat the freaking Giants, who have nothing to play for, I might just go hang my head in shame.

vikings should build up some confidence they lost in the last 3-4 games.

[dirk diggler]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Lovely.

Drama in Dove Valley again.

McDaniels has benched Tony Scheffler for 'attitude problems' for the final game of the season...a must win game....and, due to a disagreement over the severity of a hamstring pull he has also benched Brandon Marshall.

Just when I thought things would be ok long term. They are going to lose this kid for nothing.

with the potential uncapped year next year, Marshall will become a RFA and thus the broncos will get compensation if he signs with another team... As a chargers fan, i love the turmoil in Bronco Land