The NHL is equivalent is definitely not Stefan missing an empty net. Yes they were on the one yard line, and yes that's #BeastMode in the backfield, but that's still an NFL quality defense on the other side of the ball.
For what it's worth, Sherman was the first to congratulate Brady.
Too many things to comment on- ecstatic with the result. Yes, a bizarre decision at the end of the game by the Seahawks, but probably not as bad as some are making it out-
There was 25 seconds left on the clock and the Seahawks had one timeout. If Lynch was stopped on the 2nd down run, the Seahawks would have been forced to use the last timeout and throw the ball anyway on 3rd down. Everyone in the stadium expected Lynch to run on the second down play, so Caroll decided to bump things up and make the throw on 2nd down, leaving the run for 3rd and maybe 4th down. Regardless of what anyone thinks, it is much more likely that Wilson throws an incompletion or TD on that throw instead of an INT. Not sure how his stats changed from the awful 4 INT game 2 weeks ago, but Wilson had only thrown 2 red zone interceptions ever coming into these playoffs. The point is that Butler made the play- the INT was hardly a guarantee.
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For all the "I hate the CFL because it's so amateur and the NFL is such a pro league", i'm sorry but you just witnessed the biggest brain fart in the hisotry of football, on the biggest stage, at the biggest moment. The dumbest CFL plays ever still dont come close to that play call.
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I gotta say to me this is proof in my mind that some sort of football god exists.
The way the Pats marched for two drives resulting in two TD's to take the lead, and then their defense shutting the door with some great coverage. It was just so damned impressive.
That fluke catch pissed me off. To have the results of that complete fluke negated by the worst play call in recent memory was just perfect.
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For all the "I hate the CFL because it's so amateur and the NFL is such a pro league", i'm sorry but you just witnessed the biggest brain fart in the hisotry of football, on the biggest stage, at the biggest moment. The dumbest CFL plays ever still dont come close to that play call.
the 13th man comes to mind. that took some next level stupidity.
-Wilson will get paid. He's done too much in first 3 years not to, even if the defense has helped him a lot. Plus he's a squeaky clean role model.
-Lynch should too. Lynch has outperformed his contact too, and still doesn't get enough credit for the tangibles and intangibles he brings, (he would've been the SB MVP tonight if he gained that half yard) but like Shawn Alexander and his sudden drop off years ago Seattle has to tread carefully with term.
-Wagner will too. Wagner locked up and defense will be ok for at least another year at least. Will lose the defensive coordinator to Atlanta.
-Window is tight in the NFL, Schneider and Carroll have done exceptional, and although some will get paid, undrafted guys like all of the WRs, will be brought in and will step up... in addition to the draft. But always tough and a lot of things to go a teams way in the NFL to get to win a division and then take the next steps to win in the playoffs and get inches from a SB. There are teams that haven't won a playoff game in 20 years, so can never take success for granted no matter how prepared.
-Best hockey analogy would be if the a team put 3 defenseman and three forwards in the ice when pulling the goalie with 30 seconds to go when down by a goal in the Finals, after having just had all sorts of zone pressure and having all the momentum, while a forward who has 3 goals in the game sits on the bench.
-The Seahawks offensive coordinator Darrel Bevell said after the game that he called the last play (and calls all the plays) , and alluded to the theory I had about throwing on that down to be saving the last time out (as I said, they should be had 2 still). No explanation of why that route, not a back cover end zone throw. He also took the class route and through a player under the bus (Lockette) for not making the play. He needs to go.
That fluke catch pissed me off. To have the results of that complete fluke negated by the worst play call in recent memory was just perfect.
My thoughts as well. And while a catch is a catch regardless of how you do it, this one was just annoying light of the David Tyree and Mario Manningham catches.
The injuries to the Seahawks secondary really didn't seem to factor in- Sherman did his job as a deterrent and limited the number of options Brady had. I think only one ball was thrown in Sherman's direction?
The Pats were able to chip away with short and intermeditate throws with a fairly ineffective running game.
I would have been very happy to see Edelman take the MVP, but can't really argue with the Brady pick, despite the 2 INTs.
Wilson kind of destroyed the Pats secondary. Arrington was just no match for a 6'5 Chris Matthews. It was a good thing they changed things up and put Browner on him.
Great outcome and a great way for a smug team like the Seahawks to lose. The football Gods just couldn't handle their cockiness any longer.
Even this game Sherman was taunting Revis, Baldwin was taunting and pretending to take a sh*t with the football in the end zone after his TD and then Irvin starting a fight at the end of the game.
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That last play is why America hates the Seahawks! Cheap shots
This was the perfect image to end the night. No player in pro sports deserves to feel defeat more than this mouthpiece.
It'll be an interesting offseason for Seattle. Wilson will get about 25 million per a year (24.5 million more than he's making now) and Bobby Wagner will be due for a large pay raise. That will take up a ton of their cap space right now.
I think Lynch is gonna go home to Cali and sign with the Raiders. That'll be their biggest loss as he covers up a lot of that teams warts.
I hope Wilson gets a HUGE contract, because he won't live up to it and it'll take away from other areas of their team. I've heard that the team has promised to make him the highest paid QB in the league, which is crazy but hey, all the power to them.
As a Dolphins fan it was painful to cheer for New England...
But I can not stand the Seahawks (specifically Sherman and Lynch) and their annoying bandwagon fans. My God, they're the Chicago Blackhawks of the NFL. If NE didn't have Brady who I actually like I wouldn't have any positives out of this game.
So classless with that "fight" at the end of the game. Brady stepped in and showed those cocky guys what a real champion looks like.
Happy Brady won. Happy Seattle lost. Mad the rest of the Patriots won, but if it means Sherman, Lynch, and their fans are knocked off their high horse I'll take it.
EDIT: Also everyone seems to love their uniforms but personally I think they suck... Big time.
- The NFL is going to announce punishment for "deflategate" at some point this week
- Funny how one throw can change two players career narratives. Wilson misses that throw and Brady is the undisputed greatest of all time in most peoples eyes, and Wilson is an average QB who plays on a great team. If Wilson makes that throw he's the youngest QB to win 2 Super Bowls, and a top 5 QB in the league because he wins games with a strong supporting cast (eerily similar to early career Tom Brady). If Wilson makes that throw, Brady is a guy who is .500 in Super Bowls and couldn't win the big games for the majority of his career.
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Brady throws 2 INT and is the MVP. Wow. Good thing for him the worst call in recent memory happened with 20 seconds left.
As a neutral fan...... fun game to watch, and what a friggin catch to set up the final moments,crazy.
Half time show was lame. Bring Lenny Kravitz in to sing a Katy Perry song? Terrible. But at least she sang live, Missy Elliot couldn't even lip sync her own song properly, what was the point?
Half time show was lame. Bring Lenny Kravitz in to sing a Katy Perry song? Terrible. But at least she sang live, Missy Elliot couldn't even lip sync her own song properly, what was the point?
I was counting on Snoop to pop up during California Girls and save the show. I was quite disappointed when that didn't happen.
- The NFL is going to announce punishment for "deflategate" at some point this week
- Funny how one throw can change two players career narratives. Wilson misses that throw and Brady is the undisputed greatest of all time in most peoples eyes, and Wilson is an average QB who plays on a great team. If Wilson makes that throw he's the youngest QB to win 2 Super Bowls, and a top 5 QB in the league because he wins games with a strong supporting cast (eerily similar to early career Tom Brady). If Wilson makes that throw, Brady is a guy who is .500 in Super Bowls and couldn't win the big games for the majority of his career.
not sure I quite agree with the latter point, going to the superbowl 6 times is a record in itself, and he still would of had 3 rings, that's still pretty impressive.. It would of altered Wilson's perspective for sure
- The Kearse catch was flukey but the drop he had was the biggest play in the game, even more than the end of game play. A catch there with how Seattle was rolling probably means 31-14, and likely game over.
- Seattle's defense will now escape blame for their 4th quarter collapse because of the play call. But they easily let the Patriots go down the field twice, and their tackling was quite poor all game. Great defense but now out of the all-time discussion unless they come back next year.
- The play call at the end is best summed up as out thinking yourself. When the first down run ended at the 1, there was just under a minute to play. Even with only 1 timeout, you can easily run it 3 more times, which is who they are. Involving Lockette, a special teamer and 4th WR (on a team that maybe has one legitimate #2 receiver), is a mind boggling decision. Throw it to Lynch if nothing else.
- Even if Wilson makes the throw, no one considers him top 5. And there's the point: Why is a guy who's accuracy is not excellent being asked to make a tight window throw? A fade or back shoulder outside? Fine, but Wilson is not an accurate enough pocket QB to be making a throw into anything but a wide open window.
- If your teams QB is Colin Kaepernick, mocking someone else for potentially badly overpaying is hilarious. At least Wilson is in the top half of the league and gets paid for a SB and some pretty good play at times. Kaepernick is in the bottom 10 starters and got paid literally for 3 games against a horrible Green Bay defense.
- The CFL comment makes no sense. A dumb mistake to be sure, but the CFL will never see a game of 1/10th the quality we just saw last night. Last night proved that if you enjoy football as a sport, but don't watch the NFL and do the CFL, it makes no sense. You're basically saying you don't enjoy the highest level. Like saying the KHL is more enjoyable than the NHL.
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I agree the single timeout remaining had the biggest influence on the play call. Run on second down and get stuffed, your only options are to quickly run another play on third down (no) or to call timeout and then throw on third down (especially after you've bled the clock down and will have no timeouts left. Also, I'm pretty sure it was Lynch who was stuffed for a loss on third and one earlier in the quarter? Or am I misremembering? EDIT: according to the play-by-play it was the first drive of the second half -- Seattle with 3rd and 1 from the 8 and Lynch is stopped for no gain (resulted in a field goal). It said they were lined up in the shotgun though -- perhaps a precursor of things to come?
I disagree that the better pass call would have been a back corner fade -- too risky IMO. If the ball is even slightly underthrown, it could be an INT. If the DB has good position, it becomes a jump ball. I think the safest call would have been play action, and leak someone out into the flat. If it's not there, you simply throw it away.
Even the pick play they called -- I bet they ran that multiple times this season and it was extremely successful (albeit maybe not on the goal line, although it must have been part of their red zone package -- unless they completely went stupid and called something off the script). For all intents and purposes it was properly executed by the Seahawks -- the guy was open and the throw was on the money. You just can't anticipate the DB jumping the route so quickly -- he got there before the receiver did.
I care not a lot for the Seahwaks but as a Colts fan, the worst.....WORST thing in the world is seeing that smug D-bag Brady luck into another Super Bowl Ring.
Who the Frack orders up a slant pas on the 2 yard line with Lynch in your backfield who is the master at red zone runs!
Insanely frustrating.
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