Friedman: Flames ownership killed Bishop trade to Flames last summer

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Again, NHL.com has pretty much all this information. I'm not sure why this is hard to look up, so here you go:

Brian Elliott - 49 GP/18 below .890 = 38%
Chad Johnson - 36 GP/15 below .890 = 42%
Ben Bishop - 39 GP/14 below .890 = 36%
MAF - 38 GP/14 below .890 = 37%

So I guess the answer is all of them.

(And, actually I seem to have misread the number you gave. If you drop it down to .880 or lower, the only two that didn't spend 1/3 of the season or more at that dismal number are Elliott at 28% of his season and MAF at 31% of his season. Johnson and Bishop were both .880 or worse >33% of the season).

He meant Elliott was an approx .880 for the first third of the season. Not agreeing or disagreeing just pointing out he meant something different.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Just goes to show while Elliott wasn't nearly as bad as some people think he was as Johnson and Bishop were worse. I'm actually stunned some around here still think Johnson is better lol. I wouldn't object to trading for Pickard (I don't see the price being as high as some of the other backups that may or may not be available) and signing Elliott to a one year deal if he would accept that and seeing if either can take hold of the starting job. Johnson and Pickard doesn't make sense because we know Johnson can't seize the job and would have to hope Pickard could be good enough to start the majority if games.

I can't speak for everyone here of course, but when I post about keeping Johnson around it is really as a backup, not as part of a tandem, and for sure not as a starter. I don't think that Elliott would come back to the Flames as a backup, but I do agree that Elliott is a better goalie than Johnson is.

For me, I want one of these three things to happen for next season:

1) A brand new tandem with 2 up and coming goalies - Raanta, Grubauer, Korpisalo, Mrazek, etc.

Or

2) A legitimate starting goalie with Johnson as backup - Fleury, Schneider, whom else may be available.

Or (my last hope)

3) One of the up and coming goalies with Johnson backing up.

I think there is a heck of a lot of risk on the number 3 option, but Johnson is a pretty darn good backup caliber goalie who has shown in two consecutive seasons that he is able to function as a starter for a stretch. You don't want him to be your starter, but he is a very good and very experienced backup.