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View Poll Results: Who gets suspended?
Burrows 141 32.34%
Bieksa 32 7.34%
Hamhuis 153 35.09%
No one 202 46.33%
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Old 04-20-2015, 01:17 PM   #301
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Early word is no suspension for Burrows. But NHL is unhappy with the way the series has gone and both teams are on warning for Game 4.
Let me get this straight.

The league has four officials on the ice at all times, two of them who have recourse to every tool in the league's official rules. Those officials have failed to prevent a climate of head-hunting, hitting from behind, slashing, fights instigated in the final minutes, and fights where players are sucker-punched or ganged up on.

The league has higher-ranking officials who can use video-replay to re-examine game incidents and issue supplementary discipline for infractions missed by the officials, or which the officials handled poorly. Those officials have also failed to prevent a climate of head-hunting, hitting from behind, slashing, fights instigated in the final minutes, and fights where players are sucker-punched or ganged up on. They've gone so far as to waive supplementary punishment that are called for in their own rules.

And now the league tells the teams that it's not happy with how the series is going?

You're paid to administer discipline! Do your job!

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I can't for the life of me understand how that hit in the head by Hamhuis is not suspendable. It is classic, textbook, perfect material for an example video. Player A with his head down, in a vulnerable position, looking for the puck in his feet. Player B makes no attempt to avoid head contact and in fact makes it the principal point of contact, without even so much of an attempt to play the puck.

I'm pissed. What an absolute total joke.
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Old 04-20-2015, 01:23 PM   #303
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The suspensions not being handed out to the Canucks is almost to their detriment as that team thrives when they are the victims, they love it, they feed off being by the supposed black sheep of the NHL, who has supposedly blacklisted Burrows.

If anything this will just feed their pathetic egos that they are innocent little angels, playing by "the code" and will continue to act like thugs.

I hope the Flames continue to smash them around.

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Old 04-20-2015, 01:25 PM   #304
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Supplemental discipline will come in the form of Ferland's shoulder to Burrows' chest - and if he just so happens to clip the head, well, Hamhuis got away with it.
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Old 04-20-2015, 01:27 PM   #305
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Supplemental discipline will come in the form of Ferland's shoulder to Burrows' chest - and if he just so happens to clip the head, well, Hamhuis got away with it.
Exactly.

They can keep the cheap shots going as long as they want. Ferland and the rest of the guys can keep demolishing their players with solid checks.
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Old 04-20-2015, 01:30 PM   #306
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Let me get this straight.

The league has four officials on the ice at all times, two of them who have recourse to every tool in the league's official rules. Those officials have failed to prevent a climate of head-hunting, hitting from behind, slashing, fights instigated in the final minutes, and fights where players are sucker-punched or ganged up on.

The league has higher-ranking officials who can use video-replay to re-examine game incidents and issue supplementary discipline for infractions missed by the officials, or which the officials handled poorly. Those officials have also failed to prevent a climate of head-hunting, hitting from behind, slashing, fights instigated in the final minutes, and fights where players are sucker-punched or ganged up on. They've gone so far as to waive supplementary punishment that are called for in their own rules.

And now the league tells the teams that it's not happy with how the series is going?

You're paid to administer discipline! Do your job!

THIS ^^^

They need to start policing this series better or someone will get seriously hurt and we will see large suspension because of the lack of discipline so far for either team.

Don't get me wrong, so far this series has been amazing but I can see game 4 getting out of hand and the refs in over their heads. I just hope the skilled guys are not the target because it will be tit for tat at this point.
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As much as the Flames would want to let their players exact justice, I think they have to be very careful next game. From the leagues stand point both teams have had one game to goon it up (regardless of the level of dirty and lack of respect) and they will be on a tighter leash moving forward. The team that tries the similar antics in the future games in this series will be punished, they Flames just need to keep playing their game and not go out of their way to instigate.
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Old 04-20-2015, 01:34 PM   #308
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Had some time to think about this. I think it's the right call that Hamhuis didn't get suspended. Bennett is somewhat hunched over and if you watch the super slo-mo replay Hamhuis makes contact with the shoulder (albeit a glancing blow) then contact is made with Bennett's jaw. Hamhuis isn't a repeat offender (AFAIK) and I believe the contact is incidental. Jureasonopinion.

The Burrows hit was similar to Ferland's hit on Sbisa, though Burrows approached more from behind that Ferly. The boarding call was the right call. I believe the instigator was uncalled for. Russell approached Burrows and it wasn't to talk stock options over tea and biscuits. I don't believe it was Russell's intention to drop the mitts, but it wasn't out of the question.

Bikesa on Ferland was utter garbage, but something like that was bound to happen. Bikesa got 4 solid punches in before Ferly dropped his mitts. That should have been an instigator, however the league is probably looking at Hartley play his 4th line in the dying minutes again, however they didn't start anything this time.

Personally, I'm happy that no one got suspended, because then Canucks fans everywhere would whine and pout about two of Vancouver's best players being out and claiming that is the reason the Canucks couldn't make it past the first round. When Calgary beats Vancouver, I want the Canucks to be perfectly healthy. I don't want Canucks fans to have any copout or reason to justify the Canucks losing to the Flames.
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THIS ^^^

They need to start policing this series better or someone will get seriously hurt and we will see large suspension because of the lack of discipline so far for either team.

Don't get me wrong, so far this series has been amazing but I can see game 4 getting out of hand and the refs in over their heads. I just hope the skilled guys are not the target because it will be tit for tat at this point.
I think it's going to go the other way.

Game 4 is going to be an over-refereed penalty-fest.

...so I'm happy Monahan and Gaudreau got our PP clicking last night.
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Its suspension or this:



But even if they get suspended eventually it will still be this:

So be it.
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Old 04-20-2015, 01:37 PM   #311
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I am curious how people feel about Ferlands hit on Sbisa compared to burrows on Gaudreau. In my eyes, and those I have chatted with, they were both similar. In that the people I have chatted with either thought both were dirty or neither were.

I personally think both were fine hits.
I personally felt like Gaudreau was already engaged with another player when Burrowes came in and smashed him, where Ferland hit the guy on the run... That whole sequence didn't bother me nearly as much as the Hamhuis hit on Bennett or Bieksa's assault on Ferland. Those plays should have been looked at.

If player A drops his gloves and starts feeding player B shots 4 or 5 times before player B even drops his mitts, that to me is a textbook definition of "instigating". But I digress... I'm done trying to explain the NHL's discipline system... It's a complete crap shoot.
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Disappointed but not surprised. Hopefully the Flames can keep their emotions in check tomorrow and not lower themselves to the Canucks level.
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Bieksa got off pretty lucky in that one. The two rights that Ferland threw had conviction behind them, but there were too many bodies in between at that point to do any damage. Could have been bad news for Bieksa
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Old 04-20-2015, 01:39 PM   #314
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Oh man. I think the NHL has it in for the canucks. First fining coach Bob for no reason that rallied this team and had them crush Vancouver into a pancake. Then Vancouver as Vancouver always does goons it up and tries to deliberately injure our players and the league high fives linden.

That locker room and team bond we have is something special. I don't expect anything less then another dominating hard charging performance Tuesday to put these losers on the brink, and submit them into defeat Thursday.
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And the NHL's "Magic Wheel o' Supplementary Discipline" keeps on spinning.
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I am curious how people feel about Ferlands hit on Sbisa compared to burrows on Gaudreau. In my eyes, and those I have chatted with, they were both similar. In that the people I have chatted with either thought both were dirty or neither were.

I personally think both were fine hits.
Both were borderline boarding minors. It's playoffs. They made the right (non) calls on both.
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oh well, it's their execution

somewhere Michael Ferland is licking his chops.
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who cares, win two more games that is the best revenge possible
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They are not rescinding the instigator penalty but they rescinded the automatic 1-game suspension? Why even freaking create a freaking rule that anyone that instigated a fight with less 5 minutes left in the game should automatically get 1-game suspension. Is this a different rules for Canucks player? I bet you if Ferland instigated the fight, he'll get a suspension no question ask. I am so freaking pi$$3d off. What about that Hamhuis hit? Not even a fine for Desjardins?
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Both were borderline boarding minors. It's playoffs. They made the right (non) calls on both.
Burrowes was called for a boarding minor.
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