05-30-2018, 02:01 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Feb 2014
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
I don't see what's odd about it. With weed being praised as a miracle painkiller/anti-nausea drug, a lot of people are trying it later in life with no prior use. I'm sure some of them are getting way too wrecked and experiencing negative effects.
Just because we've concluded marijuana should be legal doesn't mean we need to pretend it's harmless. It's not.
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Absolutely it has the possibility of being harmful as does anything done in excess. When one of the first statements in that article is about not having any proof backing his statement it makes the article ridiculous not odd.
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05-30-2018, 02:13 PM
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#242
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Originally Posted by Lumby Lager
Absolutely it has the possibility of being harmful as does anything done in excess. When one of the first statements in that article is about not having any proof backing his statement it makes the article ridiculous not odd.
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Statistics on admissions for marijuana effects aren't collected. That doesn't mean the observations of doctors are ridiculous.
The government has said that as part of legalization they're going to put more resources into identifying and treating the negative effects of the drug. So I'd be willing to bet hospitals will be collecting data on admissions for marijuana soon enough.
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05-30-2018, 02:27 PM
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#243
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Join Date: Apr 2003
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Originally Posted by Matata
Jazz Cabbage.
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You guys just injured me.
I've spent no fewer than the past 5 mins laughing uncontrollably over these two gems. I'm pretty sure I tore ab muscles.
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05-30-2018, 03:17 PM
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#244
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Vernon, BC
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Statistics on admissions for marijuana effects aren't collected. That doesn't mean the observations of doctors are ridiculous.
The government has said that as part of legalization they're going to put more resources into identifying and treating the negative effects of the drug. So I'd be willing to bet hospitals will be collecting data on admissions for marijuana soon enough.
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As someone that has a specific stance on this I agree 100 percent on a portion of revenue gained from the legalization of cannabis needs to be spent doing RESEARCH into the negative effects it will have on people.
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/crigm/2015/405238
The subject of this study and paper has a history of Major depression, anxiety, substance abuse and asthma. But I am sure smoking a joint or hauling on a bong sent him to the emergency room. When I was in grade 12 I killed a mickey of Bacardi 1886 with a 2 lt bottle of root beer in about an hour and a half, I bet it was the joint I smoked afterwards that was the only reason I got sick.
The doctor comes off as anti cannabis, I was waiting for him to say if you smoke a blunt dude your chance of landing in the emergency room wil quadruple. What is that? 1 in a billion jumping all they way up to 4 or heaven forbid it goes all the way up to 15 in a billion.
As a prominent medical professional in a large city he should back up his claims with Research.
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05-31-2018, 09:55 AM
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#245
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Winebar Kensington
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https://sencanada.ca/en/content/sen/...p_2018-05-31-e
May 30, 2018—Third reading of Bill C-45, An Act respecting cannabis and to amend the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, the Criminal Code and other Acts, as amended.
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05-31-2018, 02:07 PM
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#246
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Originally Posted by troutman
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Debate in the senate on the bill has been going on for quite some time. Much discussion about whether growing plants at home is a good idea. They just announced the vote will take place in 15 minutes at 4:21 pm. I wonder if it was a conscious decision to wait that extra minute...
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05-31-2018, 08:12 PM
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#247
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by fredr123
Debate in the senate on the bill has been going on for quite some time. Much discussion about whether growing plants at home is a good idea. They just announced the vote will take place in 15 minutes at 4:21 pm. I wonder if it was a conscious decision to wait that extra minute...
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Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeejected!
Damn straight, that would have been ridiculous.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/globalne...amendment/amp/
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06-02-2018, 03:57 AM
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#248
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
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Ridiculous? Really? I'm pro-legalization but I can see legitimate concerns about letting people grow these plants at home.
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06-02-2018, 07:33 AM
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by N-E-B
Ridiculous? Really? I'm pro-legalization but I can see legitimate concerns about letting people grow these plants at home.
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It’s the simplest way to take the money out of this terry guys hands everyone’s worried about. Prices are a touch high... but lots will still pay. Others will be satisfied by growing a couple plants of their own. Everywhere that has legalized it has allowed this, yes I think it would be a mistake not to allow it.
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06-02-2018, 08:47 AM
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#250
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Vernon, BC
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Originally Posted by N-E-B
Ridiculous? Really? I'm pro-legalization but I can see legitimate concerns about letting people grow these plants at home.
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I don’t think people in multi unit dwellings should have the right to be able to grow plants, it should be up the the home owners association or strata board to decide this matter. Rentals should be up to the landlords. I see no problems with a home owner being able to grow in detached home scenarios.
What would be your concerns?
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06-03-2018, 10:19 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by N-E-B
Ridiculous? Really? I'm pro-legalization but I can see legitimate concerns about letting people grow these plants at home.
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Guess you have concerns about home brewers as well then
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06-03-2018, 10:39 AM
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#252
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Can we just call it ganja? That has always been my favorite slang term for it.
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06-03-2018, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Lumby Lager
As someone that has a specific stance on this I agree 100 percent on a portion of revenue gained from the legalization of cannabis needs to be spent doing RESEARCH into the negative effects it will have on people.
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/crigm/2015/405238
The subject of this study and paper has a history of Major depression, anxiety, substance abuse and asthma. But I am sure smoking a joint or hauling on a bong sent him to the emergency room. When I was in grade 12 I killed a mickey of Bacardi 1886 with a 2 lt bottle of root beer in about an hour and a half, I bet it was the joint I smoked afterwards that was the only reason I got sick.
The doctor comes off as anti cannabis, I was waiting for him to say if you smoke a blunt dude your chance of landing in the emergency room wil quadruple. What is that? 1 in a billion jumping all they way up to 4 or heaven forbid it goes all the way up to 15 in a billion.
As a prominent medical professional in a large city he should back up his claims with Research.
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If you're going to throw out the 'he should do some research' card, at least give your claim a moment's thought.
One in a billion? That would mean roughly 7 trips to emergency rooms worldwide, each day.
A quick google search tells us that there were over 16 million visits to emergency rooms in Canada in 2012. That's 1 for every 2 people. To put that in daily terms, it's about a 1 in 700 chance that any given person will end up in emergency today (in Canada).
To quadruple that, would mean that, instead of expecting (on average) to go once every 2 years, you would expect to end up there once every 6 months.
I don't know if you are aware of how expensive it is for taxpayers every time someone ends up in emergency, but if we were to quadruple the number of trips for a significant portion of the population, that would probably bankrupt our medical system.
Quadrupling the likelihood of ending up in emergency is in fact pretty significant.
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06-03-2018, 12:08 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Honest and sincere questions, no hidden agenda:
The subject of marijuana has never bothered me much, as I've, admittedly, never felt any urge to try it even when people around me smoked it. Alcohol, tobacco, music and hormones were enough to make me happy in my younger years. They still do now, if I feel like partying.
I've been monitoring eight Canadian cannabis stocks since January. They're now valued at over $20B. I am pretty sure it's insane and unsustainable; but I've made a lot of money off the market enthusiasm already trading them up and down. I just don't' understand where it's coming from? I've been to Holland in 2007 and, out of curiousity, visited stores selling this stuff - there were no lineups and the sellers did not look like billionaires. In fact, most of the stores looked like dumps.
I'm watching the excitement in this thread and I wonder, what makes you guys SO excited about the upcoming legalization? Again, no judging, honest question.
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06-03-2018, 12:11 PM
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#255
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Purely accessibility and removing the easiest money maker for the black market.
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06-03-2018, 12:34 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
Honest and sincere questions, no hidden agenda:
The subject of marijuana has never bothered me much, as I've, admittedly, never felt any urge to try it even when people around me smoked it. Alcohol, tobacco, music and hormones were enough to make me happy in my younger years. They still do now, if I feel like partying.
I've been monitoring eight Canadian cannabis stocks since January. They're now valued at over $20B. I am pretty sure it's insane and unsustainable; but I've made a lot of money off the market enthusiasm already trading them up and down. I just don't' understand where it's coming from? I've been to Holland in 2007 and, out of curiousity, visited stores selling this stuff - there were no lineups and the sellers did not look like billionaires. In fact, most of the stores looked like dumps.
I'm watching the excitement in this thread and I wonder, what makes you guys SO excited about the upcoming legalization? Again, no judging, honest question.
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Not sure who's SO excited, but as someone who enjoys a toke after work(kinda like how my parents and their gen. enjoyed a stiff drink after work) I like the accessibility, convenience, and the quality that comes with it.
Also it's not always about partying. Actually it's very rarely about partying for a lot of older pot smokers. For me and alot of the people I know it's about relaxing at home and taking the edge off. I can stop at a store on my home or if I'm out running errands and pick some up exactly like you can with alcohol.
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06-03-2018, 12:38 PM
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#257
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Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
Honest and sincere questions, no hidden agenda:
The subject of marijuana has never bothered me much, as I've, admittedly, never felt any urge to try it even when people around me smoked it. Alcohol, tobacco, music and hormones were enough to make me happy in my younger years. They still do now, if I feel like partying.
I've been monitoring eight Canadian cannabis stocks since January. They're now valued at over $20B. I am pretty sure it's insane and unsustainable; but I've made a lot of money off the market enthusiasm already trading them up and down. I just don't' understand where it's coming from? I've been to Holland in 2007 and, out of curiousity, visited stores selling this stuff - there were no lineups and the sellers did not look like billionaires. In fact, most of the stores looked like dumps.
I'm watching the excitement in this thread and I wonder, what makes you guys SO excited about the upcoming legalization? Again, no judging, honest question.
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In the early days of an industry, it's all about potential and optimism. There is no rational justification for these prices. Whenever non-investors are talking about how they are investing in a particular group of stocks, one would be well advised to run like hell. Or at the very least, stand very, very close to the door.
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06-03-2018, 01:25 PM
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Craig McTavish' Merkin
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Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
Honest and sincere questions, no hidden agenda:
The subject of marijuana has never bothered me much, as I've, admittedly, never felt any urge to try it even when people around me smoked it. Alcohol, tobacco, music and hormones were enough to make me happy in my younger years. They still do now, if I feel like partying.
I've been monitoring eight Canadian cannabis stocks since January. They're now valued at over $20B. I am pretty sure it's insane and unsustainable; but I've made a lot of money off the market enthusiasm already trading them up and down. I just don't' understand where it's coming from? I've been to Holland in 2007 and, out of curiousity, visited stores selling this stuff - there were no lineups and the sellers did not look like billionaires. In fact, most of the stores looked like dumps.
I'm watching the excitement in this thread and I wonder, what makes you guys SO excited about the upcoming legalization? Again, no judging, honest question.
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It's a giant first step towards the end of the war on drugs. I'd like to see all drugs be, at the very least, decriminalized so we can work towards helping addicts, instead of letting them rot in jail.
I have no interest in partaking recreationally, but I'm curious to try CBD to help relieve anxiety.
I think you're right that the industry is overvalued. The money being put into cultivation and storefronts is crazy. Like most things, it'll come down to a few efficient growers and sellers who will dominate the market.
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06-03-2018, 05:50 PM
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#259
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Zevo
Not sure who's SO excited...
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Whoever is changing the thread title for the third or fourth time, sure is.
Anyway, thanks for your response. You like the ease of access that would come with legalization. I get it. A friend of mine in Baltimore does exactly what you like to do - smoking a joint every night after dinner, alone. He's been doing it for the past 20 years; seemingly, without any issues or difficulties. What's the problem that's being solved for you guys on July 1? Is it the fact that you'd be paying taxes on it from now on?
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06-03-2018, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
Whoever is changing the thread title for the third or fourth time, sure is.
Anyway, thanks for your response. You like the ease of access that would come with legalization. I get it. A friend of mine in Baltimore does exactly what you like to do - smoking a joint every night after dinner, alone. He's been doing it for the past 20 years; seemingly, without any issues or difficulties. What's the problem that's being solved for you guys on July 1? Is it the fact that you'd be paying taxes on it from now on?
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I imagine for pot smokers it would be nice not to be risking fines, criminal records, jail, and the resulting reduced employment opportunities and lowered social status that comes with legal trouble.
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