Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[puffnstuff]

Another panel...

“It’s not so much the West wants in. It’s the West wants Ottawa out of its hair,” Smith said, listing the pursuit of changes to the composition of the House of Commons and Senate, immigration and tax collection as other grievances.

She also mentioned Alberta potentially leaving the Canada Pension Plan, something the government’s own 2023 survey showed had support of only#around 10 per cent of respondents.

“This status quo threatens our province’s economic future and way of life,” she#posted online#ahead of Tuesday’s news conference. “We owe it to all Albertans and future generations to address and solve this challenge without delay.”

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/loc...t-panel-ottawa

And someone understands what shes doing...
"We’re going to spend millions on this theatrical facade just so she can keep people mad at Ottawa.” — Naheed Nenshi on Premier Smith’s Alberta Next Panel.

[puffnstuff]

Oh and if you go to the webpage about this panel youll find this...

Constitutional changes. Working with other provinces to pressure the federal government to amend the Canadian constitution to empower and protect provincial rights.

[Amethyst]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Oh and if you go to the webpage about this panel youll find this...

Constitutional changes. Working with other provinces to pressure the federal government to amend the Canadian constitution to empower and protect provincial rights.

She does realize Alberta isn't the only province, doesn't she?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Bad news: We blew through our gas flaring limit in 2023 and 2024.


Good news: the limit has been eliminated, so that won't be an embarrassment any longer.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...569189?cmp=rss

That limit though being present and other initiated and regulations and reported on reduced flaring substantially. So the story’s should never have been that the limits have been exceeded. It should be on all the work being done to limit flaring.

There are very few instances where it’s not deemed economically practical to recover the gas. Hopefully they still track flaring and release an annual number.

The political approach by smith just getting rid of it and how the media covers it frustrates me.

[Harry Lime]

So, as I'm driving a moment ago...

The Ben Mulroney show had the minister of education on, talking about the inappropriate books that were available in Alberta schools and what they were doing to fix the problem. There was a lot of talk about the graphic nature of the books, and how polls were taken to see if parents wanted their small children to see books showing graphic oral sex in the elementaries.

There was no talk about how these books were not phyically in the schools, but there is the possibility of them being ordered and stocked. There was no talk that there is already a process in place to remove books like these, and that it's literally a decision, a report and a keystroke to fix the problem.

They then talked about inappropriate literature being allowed in school by planned parenthood.

They then talked about (with no proof of actual existence) of public events (they insinuated Pride events) where colorful literature intended for children, depicting how to use and administer a wide array of recreational drugs were being handed out.

The minister then went on to talk about how the government is taking this seriously, and will create a Ministry of Order to deal with this kind of issue.

So, there's the endgame. The UCP's Ministry of Order and Control.

[Fuzz]

Ben Mulroney has zero issues vomiting a stream of lies and misinformation, so it's no shock he'd leave out any facts as well. Anyone that listens to his show and takes any snippet of anything as reality without fact checking(seriously, try it one day, it's wild) should probably just sit at home and eat paste on voting day.

I listen occasionally just so I'm reminded how thoroughly stupid people can be and still breathe.

[Harry Lime]

Keep in mind this is right after Smith had taken the entire communications wing of the government and put it under the control of the premier's office, with a big increase in budget.

So the Ministry of Order can effectively order sweeping changes to anything that they find objectionable, and then the premier's office controls the message, or the lack thereof.

This would be able to keep people effectively in the dark about anything from event cancellation, to protest suppression, to policy changes which would have ramifications on things like resource development and land rights. All you have to do is link the change to any social issue, to invoke the power of the MoO, and then cover it up using the premier's office.

Controlling the message is a massive power trip.

[KelVarnsen]

It's fascism.

[Amethyst]

Those of us who are disturbed what's happening to the south need to realize the UCP is very much trying to implement such things here as well.

[Fuzz]

It's ####ing bonkers anyone on earth could look at what they are doing down south and say "ya, gimme some of that, please!"

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Amethyst

Those of us who are disturbed what's happening to the south need to realize the UCP is very much trying to implement such things here as well.

And yet people will continue to vote for them regardless because there’s blue beside their name. Albertans just love getting repeatedly kicked in the nuts.

[puffnstuff]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/edmonton/arti...e-going-ahead/

Survey shows most Albertans don’t want province setting standards for school library books, province going ahead.

Survey results from the Alberta government show the majority of respondents don’t support the province setting standards for school library books.

Nearly half of respondents were guardians of school-aged children. The results show support for provincial standards for school library materials was highest among this group.

However, while 44 per cent of that category was very or somewhat supportive, 49 per cent were not at all or not very supportive.


The survey results are in the story

[puffnstuff]

https://www.albertanextpanel.ca/

Theres a survey!

Theres also a video I couldnt seem to skip before betting to the questions

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

https://www.albertanextpanel.ca/

Theres a survey!

Theres also a video I couldnt seem to skip before betting to the questions

I love that the questions force a positive response.

"What aspect do you like most about an Alberta Police Service?"
... Well, I don't like any of it, frankly.
"This question is required.*"
F-ck you.

[Geraldsh]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

I love that the questions force a positive response.

"What aspect do you like most about an Alberta Police Service?"
... Well, I don't like any of it, frankly.
"This question is required.*"
F-ck you.

What I like most is that they don’t exist and never should.

[woob]

That's gross. "Watch this propaganda video before you take the survey. It's totally just for information, not to try and guide your answers."

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by woob

That's gross. "Watch this propaganda video before you take the survey. It's totally just for information, not to try and guide your answers."

You can mute the video, open a different tab, and do something else until the timer runs out.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

You can mute the video, open a different tab, and do something else until the timer runs out.

Like shop for paintball guns...for...reasons?

[troutman]

Premier Danielle Smith coming to Okotoks for town hall
Premier to join Highwood MLA RJ Sigurdson for session at Viking Rentals Centre.

https://www.westernwheel.ca/local-ne...-hall-10852039

It’s scheduled for Wednesday, July 2 from 5 to 6:30 p.m. Doors open at 4:30 p.m.

Let them have it on coal, pensions, RCMP, book banning, health scandal, separation.

[#-3]

That was an interesting experience, I appreciated the phony attempt to say they understand the other side after the propaganda video, and the second question they don't intend on paying attention to in each survey.

I ended up trying to take it a little bit seriously.

I did in the APP one, ask we why they were doing this again when they already at 70,000 responses with the answer they needed.

In the APS and ARA ones I asked why it's always the conservatives that want to spend a bunch of money on duplicate services the preform functions we already have, it seems to me we should be consolidating government programs to save costs, not breaking them up.

In the Equalization one, I asked why Calgary shouln'td go after Medicine hat for all of the equalization transfers we send them. Calgary generates far more tax revenue than the government spends here, why should those comparatively low income people in Medicine Hat get so many government services, when us rich urban fat cats pay more. Then I pointed out the deep hypocrisy in demanding more control over federal responsibilities while taking authority away from municipalities at the same time

For constitutional reform, I said I appreciate the desire for a senate with more political legitimacy, but that it is foolhardy to think that 10% of the population is going to see an electoral system that gives them a strong level of control over government. I also suggested having different methods of selected the Senate and House was a good idea to reduce the effects of parties over the system, suggestion sortation for the senate, and possibly direct election by the Bar association members for judicial appointments (due to courts being rooted in a highly technical and obscure area of expertise to the general population)


Just for fun feel free to read the comments of the last survey, there's some stuff in there.

https://open.alberta.ca/dataset/9f48...ine-survey.pdf